Dizz's 3rd Mage Gathering
02.23.02 - Harvestgain, Rithwic Fairgrounds 3pm - 5pm Est
http://dizzarian.com/acmages

Contents
  1) Pre-Meeting Hijinks
  2) Moo Mage talk
  3) Baudern Drum talk
  4) Dizz's DT Opal
  5) More messing around
  6) Famous Player talk
* 7) Str/End disscussion
* 8) Arcane lore now Viable?
  9) Talk of Dt Meeting and evil Opal
 10) Robe discussion
 11) Troop's Interview on stratics
 12) more silliness
 13) Journal talks
 14) Raffle drawings and other talk
 15) The source of magic in AC
*16) Skill based System and AC Improvements
*17) Why we play and the economy
*18) Changes to how we learn Spell possiblities
*19) Drain Imbalanced? if so how to fix
*20) How to make Melee's as powerful as mages
 21) Good-byes

* Recomended Readings

note : Most spell casting and some personal tells has been removed

1) Pre-Meeting Hijinks
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Sylence says, "heya noob"
You say, "hehe"
You say, "k I know sylence, dekkon are deus?"
Dekkon says, "no"
You say, "wow I can jump hi"
Sylence says, "lol"
You say, "I can barely jump on this bench"
Sylence says, "ok its showoff time"
You say, "lol"
You say, "dek what server you play on?"
Dekkon says, "solclaim"
You say, "hey you stole my kill"
Sylence says, "lmao"
Sylence says, "wow i got 675 xp for that, oh wait that was from chain"
Sylence says, "topheron's doom is the best :)"
You say, "think we'll have many show up?"
You say, "yup that's a good one"
Sylence says, "i think so, sure had a lot of replies on the thread"
Opal tells you, "*wave high*"
You say, "nope they're right"
You tell Opal, "w00t you made it, cool"
Opal tells you, "I heard that there was a mage tea party in Rithwic."
Dekkon says, "10.5N,  53.5.w"
You say, "w00t opal's on her way"
Opal tells you, "I could use some help getting there.  I appear to be in... Yanshi"
Deus De Ira says, "w00t"
You say, "hey deus"
Deus De Ira says, "hola"
Sylence says, "you mean THE opal?"
Sylence says, "hiya dues"
Deus De Ira bows deeply.
You tell Opal, "oh hell, I get some there to help you out"
Opal tells you, "thanks!"
You say, "opal's in yanshi who wants to go help her get here"
Sylence says, "i will"
Deus De Ira says, "its really cool to finally make one of these gatherings"
Deus De Ira says, "good, im a gimp mule with 20 vit"
You say, "yup on as Opal"
Deus De Ira says, "its cool to meet you guys :)"
You say, "what's new deus, glad you finally got to come to one"
Deus De Ira says, "dont get to do things like this on dt"
Deus De Ira says, "not much new, lvl 63, hunting on sing caul"
You say, "I've been playing a little on dt"
Deus De Ira says, "really, thats sweet :)"
Deus De Ira says, "just msg deus de iro if you need help"
You say, "k cool, what clan you in?"
Deus De Ira says, "a small anti guild up north, clan of the hand"
Deus De Ira says, "or coth"
Dekkon sits down.
You say, "hmm my opal mage needs to get to 16, he's 13 now and at bandit castle"
Deus De Ira says, "anyone own that?"
You say, "nah it's pretty much anti there"
Deus De Ira says, "i hear that opals completely own on dt"
You say, "I'm hoping so, I'm got a journal ready to go if I decide to stay there"
Deus De Ira says, "being a bm is cool, but no healing really hurts"
Deus De Ira says, "i really should write one"
Deus De Ira says, "i did make it to 50 on dt with no vassal exp"
Deus De Ira says, "using explorer jewlery all the way thanks to you :)"
You say, "nice"
Deus De Ira says, "so many people made fun of me when we would hunt bsd :)"
You say, "way to be a real man :)"
You say, "dek what you play on sc?"
Deus De Ira says, "just dont get frustrated with dt too quick, its no fun at all untill you finally get lvl 45 ish"
Deus De Ira says, "you just keep getting ganked"
You say, "If I got frustrated easy I would have quite already"
Deus De Ira says, "true :)"
Dekkon says, "life mage at first then switched to bm"
Deus De Ira says, "and getting gsa makes a huge difference"
You say, "cool what level are you now?"
Dekkon says, "41"
Deus De Ira says, "close man"
You say, "ah almost graduated then ehh?"
Dekkon says, "hehe almost"
Deus De Ira says, "its worth it man, it really is"
You say, "the extra skill has made all the difference in the world"
Deus De Ira says, "at lvl 62 i was tanking up to 6 rampagers/silver tuskers at a time"
Deus De Ira says, "untill the bludgevuln of death anyway"
Dekkon says, "hehe"
You say, "I like rampagers, everyone else trys to avoid hell island.  I think it's fun"
Deus De Ira says, "yea, i just whish i knew how to hunt it"
Deus De Ira says, "and i whish inquis didnt take 1/2 a buff cycle to kill"
You say, "It's a little easier now that the spawns have changed"
You say, "inquis suck my ass, I hate those guys"
Deus De Ira says, "casting yeild 6 for 2 mana pools bites"
Deus De Ira says, "diz btw, about dt... people say dont drain whore... but if someone is much higher than you and your just trying to survive, yeild, critter inpet, mash drain 1 to point of stupididy"
You say, "afk a sec"
You sit and think.
Deus De Ira decides to rest for a while.
Deus De Ira says, "lol... i run through you"
Deus De Ira says, "i sooooo forgot about that"
Dekkon says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "i thought my clipping just wigged"
Dekkon says, "hehe"
Sylence says, "and we're here :)"
Deus De Ira says, "aww, you guys cant make people pyramids :("
Opal says, "Yay!"
Opal says, "Thanks!"
Deus De Ira says, "wow... _the_ opal?"
Opal waves high in the air.
Opal says, "Reduced to level 1:("
Opal cries.
Tribal Priestess says, "hello!"
Deus De Ira says, "at least your not a gimp mage with alch :)"
Opal says, "Hi everyone!"
Sylence says, "heya TP"
Dekkon says, "hello!"
Tribal Priestess says, "opal...i must bow before greatness!"
Tribal Priestess curtseys.
You say, "bak"
You say, "hey opal, so glad you could make it"
Opal toes the ground
You say, "hey tribal, you too :)"
Deus De Ira says, "did i just see a lvl 47 mage vuln 7 and war 7.... what gives?"
Tribal Priestess says, "greetings dizz...always a pleasure:)"
Deca prime tells you, "hey"
Opal says, "I apologize for my attire, my luggage got lost in transit from Frostfell."
You tell Deca prime, "howdy"
Deca prime tells you, "Can you give me the coords agen"
Opal says, "Stupid airlines."
Sylence says, "lol"
Dekkon says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Deus De Ira says, "lol :)"
You say, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "i think they rerouted your luggage to boise:)"
You tell Deca prime, "10.5n 53.5e directly west of rith"
You tell Deca prime, "ah cool"
You say, "hey opal, started a new opal on dt a little while back :)"
Deus De Ira says, "yea opal, your temp is the dt rage"
Deca prime tells you, "I guess ill try agen later"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Deus De Ira says, "and theres a reason for it :("
Opal says, "Wow!  How is that going?  I always wondered how a war/creature spec would do in PK"
Deus De Ira says, "once it gets life 7 pros and healings its soooo hardcore"
Opal says, "I wanted to try on FF but all the PKs are level 100 now"
You say, "getting to 16 sucks but after that I'll be good"
Tribal Priestess says, "ihehe"
Sylence says, "i've never gotten above lvl 7 on DT, hehe"
Tribal Priestess says, "such is the way of xp chains....sooo many are over 100 now"
You say, "I'm 13 now"
Deus De Ira says, "it debuffs like an og, and doesnt miss the drains because the war 7s keep people off you"
Tribal Priestess says, "ahh cool"
Deus De Ira says, "ive been owned by a few :("

2) Moo Mage
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You say, "so tribal was the moo mage name your invention?"
Opal says, "Moo mage?"
Opal shivers.
Sylence says, "moo mage?"
Deus De Ira says, "eh?"
Sylence moos
Opal says, "Like a cow?  You milk your opponents?"
Sylence says, "rofl"
Dekkon says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "harhar"
Deus De Ira says, "lol :)"
Deus De Ira says, "seriously though, what is it?"
You say, "lol, people have been calling bms moo mages"
Deus De Ira says, "haha, why moo mages?"
Sylence says, "You cast Drain Milk Other I on Moo Mage and gain 42323857 points of Milk"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Opal says, "weird"
Sylence says, "where do they get moo from"
You say, "there's some more on there way here"
Tribal Priestess says, "there are some"
Sylence says, "they should call us dookie mages"
Opal says, "I remember when they used to call it the animal mage"
Deus De Ira says, "the ironic thing opal, on dt they were calling it the ugh mage in the beginging, saying "ugh that temp sucks" untill a few got high level and started kicking ass"
Tribal Priestess says, "me too"
Opal says, "No way!!!"
Opal says, "That's what I called it"
Deus De Ira says, "yea"
You say, "cause people are like cattle they follow the herd, if the herd is going Og they all do if they're going bm they follow"
Deus De Ira says, "as in ugh, why would someone play it"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah i remember they'd called it that on crossroads"
Sylence says, "oh, so BM is the rage now?"
Opal says, "Back on Frostfell I jokingly call it the ugh mage to make fun of my friends at the mayoi beach who were all Ogs"
Deus De Ira says, "but they dont anymore, not after it slings lvl 7 wars so early"
Sulphur tells you, "hail mighty dizzarian"
Tribal Priestess says, "well i was ahead of the treand...."
You tell Sulphur, "hail"
Tribal Priestess says, "You were born on 09/22/00 21:39:56."
Sulphur tells you, "the meeting still occuring ?"
Sylence says, "wow"
You say, "I'd like to think I started the trend :)"
Deus De Ira says, "You were born on 10/17/00 12:29:20."
Opal says, "age"
Sylence says, "You were born on 05/29/01 14:38:33."
Sylence says, "=/"
Deca prime tells you, "damnit tryed to run there by going north"
Opal says, "You were born on 05/29/00 09:55:02."
Tribal Priestess says, "heck...i started with 100 strength cause there were no peas back then:)"
Sylence says, "i had never heard of a battlemage before though"
Veneficus waves.
You tell Sulphur, "you bet"
You say, "Hi ven"
Opal waves high in the air.
Sylence says, "100 strength is still practical"
Tribal Priestess says, "i planned on carrying 800 powdered ambers:)"
Sylence says, "heya"
Deus De Ira points out how tribal was a showoff and dressed to kill
Sulphur tells you, "excellent, i havnt missed much then ?"
Dekkon waves.
You tell Sulphur, "nope"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
You take a quick drink.
Sulphur tells you, "i shall see you momentarily then >:)"
Tribal Priestess flexes then rips a seam!
Tehanu says, "hello folks!"
Opal says, "So what's the latest mage news?  Is everyone arcane lore spec yet?"
Deca prime says, "w00t"
Sylence says, "heya tehanu :)"
Opal has been out of the loop
You say, "omg its thanu :)"
Deus De Ira says, "see if this were dt, we would all start kicking him for being an o.0"
Tribal Priestess says, "hi tehanu:)"
Tehanu says, "heh"
Veneficus says, "so... shall we indulge some philosophical discussion, or enter our ac-trained spreadsheet mentality? :)"
You say, "all pimped out too"
Deus De Ira says, "but we cant do that here :("
Deca prime says, "HAHA dizz"
Tehanu says, "check that out!"
Deca prime says, "you look funnyes"
Tribal Priestess says, "either or V :)"
Opal cringes in terror.
You say, "yup not my normal self"
Tehanu says, "I couldn't bake anything before hand...was up til 6 am getting this thing"
Deca prime says, "DRUGERS"
Tribal Priestess says, "you got it tehanu?!"
You say, "that's alright I got my drink :)"
You take a quick drink.

3) Baudern Drum talk

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Tribal Priestess says, "that is pretty cool:)"
Tehanu says, "yep...was part of the first successful quest on HG there last night!"
Deus De Ira says, "yea, im scared to see what its goign to do on dt"
Tribal Priestess says, "nice!"
You say, "so can you equip it with the foc stone?"
Sylence says, "ooh invoker"
Sylence says, "cast it on a drudge tehanu"
Deus De Ira says, "all these meles running around chucking blades"
Tribal Priestess says, "we hg'ers always seem to be the last on epic quests:)"
Tehanu says, "now...of courseI can't use it, we all know that *rolls eyes*"
Adamalon II says, "Hail all :)"
Deca prime says, "IM GOING TO KILL IT"
You say, "hi ad"
Sylence says, "calm down deca"
Opal says, "Hi adamalon!"
Sylence says, "heya adamalon"
Tribal Priestess says, "hiya bro"
Tehanu says, "Dizz!"
Tehanu says, "Opal!"
Deca prime says, "UA UA"
Veneficus says, "quidity rifts were a real bitch (unspecified dmg--ignored all but 'raw' al--basically, impen and armor self was the only thing that worked against them... i think...if that)..."
Tehanu says, "Deus!  wow!"
Adamalon II says, "hehe how's everyone today?"
Tehanu kneels low.
Sylence says, "good, good =-P"
Deus De Ira says, "aye, hola"
Deca prime says, "WHY THE HECK WONT THIS THING DIE"
Deca prime says, "Cruath Quatak"
Veneficus says, "but somehow, despite the chaos of 50+ people, our MT group managed to get several people to the end to claim the reward. "
Deca prime says, "Zojak Quaguz"
You say, "kick it's ass deca"
Deca prime says, "Zojak Quaguz"
Tribal Priestess says, "cool"
Deca prime says, "LOl"
Deca prime says, "LOL 60"
Adamalon II says, "I wanna try that quest, gotta assemble the rest of my drum though hehe"
Deca prime says, "20"
Deus De Ira says, "hg will get it ina few months :)"
Deca prime says, "LOl thats 138 xp"
You say, "I've only collected a stump, I suck"
Tribal Priestess says, "<snickers>"
Opal says, "On FF that quest is shaping up to be a lot like the BZ quests"
Sylence says, "lol"
Tehanu says, "there's a quest going today, Adamalon, at 2 PST"
Tehanu says, "get in touch with Calabow"
Opal says, "Everyone beats their chest, proclaims themselves the leader, then dies a few times"
Adamalon II says, "yeah I heard"
Veneficus says, "what's the AI on those things in portal space? i noticed they would very obviously Wi flag someone, and go after some specific individual almost exclusively."
Deca prime says, "this thing is going down"
You say, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Deus De Ira says, "im note sure, but i imagein dt has probably finished it"
Deca prime says, "lol"
You say, "mt is about that organized too"
Sulphur says, "hail and well met"
Deus De Ira says, "blood, while cruel and cheating, is a very efficient crew"
Deca prime says, "Zojak Quaguz"
Deca prime says, "DIE"
Adamalon II says, "can I get in without being having my drum fiinished?"
You say, "hi suphur"
Opal says, "Hi sulphur!"
Tehanu says, "ah...well we tried to make a point of getting as many people invokers last night as we could.  there was this one level 50 guy who soloed the hell room"
Tribal Priestess says, "greetings sulp:)"
Veneficus says, "adam, due to the summon bug, yes... can't get the reward."
Opal says, "The Hell room?!"
Veneficus says, "tho"
Sulphur says, "ahh the migty opal ...."
Tehanu says, "to hit the levers for the 60's as they'd missed doing that earlier."
Sulphur bows deeply.
Sulphur says, "its a plaeasure to finally meet you >:)"
Deca prime says, "ITS DED"
Opal cringes in terror.
Opal says, "Nice to meet you too!"
Tribal Priestess curtseys.
You take a quick drink.
Deca prime says, "DIE"

4) Dizz's DT opal

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Tehanu says, "Dizz...how's your Opal doing on DT?"
Tehanu says, "heh heh"
Adamalon II says, "cool, it'll be nice to go through it at least, then I can go back to leveling hehe"
Deca prime says, "LOl 277 xp"
You say, "level 13"
Deus De Ira points out deca's seeming adhd type bloodlust
Tehanu says, "(trying to embarrass Opal even more)"
Opal says, "It's working"
You say, "getting to 16 has proven to be quite a challange"
Sulphur says, "heh"
Veneficus says, "even when i create a temporary mule to come here, i still can't resist the urge to do some extreme mage template. i'm disturbed."
Tribal Priestess )
Deus De Ira says, "hehe, diz, is there anything up near bandit castle to twink on?"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "my house is somewhat near there"
Deus De Ira says, "i could run up and give you a push"
You say, "yup about everything there is pretty decent"
Sylence says, "i just got a house today :)"
Sulphur says, "diz yer opal is on dt ?"
Tehanu says, "ack...I KNEW I forgot to do something...I was going to try to get a GCD tie, and send us all in there!"
You say, "yup sulp"
Deus De Ira says, "get up with me on dt.... well get you some exp"
Deus De Ira says, "you made it to 13 on your own, that shows enough dedication"
Tehanu says, "can still do it..."
Deca prime says, "Hey diz"
Deus De Ira says, "the rest is just suffering"
Deca prime says, "lets level you to level 2"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Sylence says, "i've got a life spec UA on DT, only level 4 though =/"
Tribal Priestess )
Opal says, "I think the key to fast leveling is xbow"
You say, "it's even inspired me to write again so there could be journals for it soon"
Deca prime says, "You got flame bolt one right"
Sylence says, "deus do you have the same name on DT?"
Deca prime says, "]"
Sylence says, "can i have a tree when we're done?"
Deus De Ira says, "deus de iro"
Opal says, "I was trying to level a war/creature mage on WE and actually had luck with buffed, untrained xbow"
Aerlinthian says, "Hello"
You say, "my opal on dt is dizzop"
Sylence says, "i need one for my house"
Opal says, "Hi Aerlinthian!"
Tribal Priestess says, "nice"
Tehanu says, "heh"
Opal says, "Nice to finally meet you."
Aerlinthian says, "Hola"
Tribal Priestess says, "hello aer"
Sylence says, "deus you stole all the trees"
Opal says, "Que tal?"
Deca prime says, "OK my name is deca and im a gimp"
Aerlinthian says, "You as well =]"
Deus De Ira says, "muAHAHAH, i AM THE GRINCH!"
Sylence says, "gimme a tree :)"
Deus De Ira says, "I STONE CHRISTMAS"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Adamalon II says, "hail :)"

5) More messing around
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Spyrogyro tells you, "hello"
Sylence says, "i need it for muh house"
You say, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "sole..."
You tell Spyrogyro, "hi"
Tehanu says, "heh heh"
Deca prime says, "Puish Zharil"
Aerlinthian says, "Hello Drizz"
Strength Other I has expired.
You say, "nice deed"
You say, "hi aelinthian"
Veneficus says, "who here would want to cross-server mule swear with me? :)"
Sylence says, "ooh, wood..."
Sulphur says, "hail TX"
Deca prime says, "Hey slylence I was Pming you today"
Sylence says, "what server vene?"
Tehanu says, "hi sulphur"
Deus De Ira says, "i would vene"
Veneficus says, "syl, MT"
Aerlinthian says, "Sorry I amlate all, just got my monarchy our mansion, I still have a head ache from it, hehe"
Sylence says, "you were? sorry didnt see it"
Sulphur says, "heya tehanu"
Deca prime says, "what server vene"
Tehanu says, "any idea if Tsunami's showing up?"
You say, "ven what's your char on MT?"
Veneficus says, "deca, MT"
Deca prime says, "ah"
Tribal Priestess says, "you know...i think i maybe the olny person left on dereth that isn't in an xp-chain:)"
Deca prime says, "I have chars on Mt"
Opal says, "Me too tribal."
Veneficus says, "ok, deus."
Tehanu says, "and are you gonna do aerlinthe with us next sunday, sulphur?"
Adamalon II says, "nope same Tribal :)"
Aerlinthian says, "xp chains = four letter word ;)"
Deus De Ira says, "they are mandatory on dt"
Opal says, "I haven't even gotten around to getting vassals yet.  Or a patron."
Sylence says, "XP chains are the pwn :) if you dont get in a dishonorable one of course"
Tribal Priestess says, "oh...i feel better:)"
Tehanu says, "I'm not in an xp chain either, tribal."
Sulphur says, "that the one tsunami is runnin ?"
You dance, "Look at me! I'm dancin crazy!"
Tehanu says, "yeah."
Sulphur says, "aye"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Tehanu says, "cool..."
Deus De Ira plays dead.
Tribal Priestess dances, "Look at me! I'm dancin crazy!"
Tehanu says, "Tribal, you going on that one too?"
Deus De Ira plays dead.
You say, "funny dancing goes to static-x music"
Aerlinthian never learned how to dance ;)
Deus De Ira dances, "Look at me! I'm dancin crazy!"
Deca prime says, "DAMNIT"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Opal says, "OMG"
Opal says, "You can buy trees?!"
Adamalon II says, "yep"
You say, "haHa I'm the only one in a turbine :)"
Deca prime says, "the most i can hit for is 85"
Sulphur says, "heh he had a tree in his pocket >;)"
Deus De Ira says, "groovy tribal"
Deus De Ira )
Deca prime says, "HEy"
Opal says, "Wow, I really am out of the loop"
Tribal Priestess says, "hopefully...depends if i'm not down in arizona watching the cubs spring training:)"
Deca prime says, "everyone no the combater PLug"
Opal has gotten sucked into anarchy online
Adamalon II says, "?"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe Opal"
Deca prime says, "to many times"
Tehanu says, "OK...I have a few things to raffle..."
Deca prime says, "listen"
Deca prime says, "You cleave Wood Target Drudge in twain! For 1 xp. You have 65,777 unassigned xp."
Tehanu says, "but no raffles..."
Spyrogyro tells you, "you sure it is 53.5W, I just got killed"
Sulphur says, "hehe"
Tribal Priestess )
Deus De Ira says, "this whole standing around unbuffing emoting thing is reallllly weird...."
Tehanu says, "hmmm..."
Deca prime says, "Ooo yummie"
Deus De Ira says, "we can do it on dt, but seldom, and buffed.... omg buffed...."
Deca prime says, "didnt no i had level 6 vulns"
You tell Spyrogyro, "ah nope 10.5n 53.5e west of rith"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Adamalon II says, "I need to collect mine, at least for fire"
You say, "crap I put the coords wrong"
You smack your head.
Opal smacks her head.
Dekkon says, "so i was right"
You say, "put w instead of e"
Tribal Priestess says, "too much to drink dizz?"
Opal smacks her head.
Opal smacks her head.
Opal smacks her head.
You take a quick drink.
Opal rubs her head

6) famous player talk
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Deus De Ira says, "is the person, zarya al bint (spelling), the one who wrote the journals here?"
Spyrogyro tells you, "ok, trying again to get there"
You say, "who me drink?"
Deus De Ira says, "i really loved her writing"
Tehanu says, "anybody have extra parchments?"
Sulphur says, "heh stop it opal, youll lose a point in focus if you keep it up >:)"
Sylence farts.
Tribal Priestess says, "i haven't seen her in ages"
You take a quick drink.
Sylence watches as the crowd disperses.
Deus De Ira says, "id love to have meet her"
Opal says, "Does Og the one Eyed still post on collegium arcani?"
Veneficus says, "it would be quite interesting if turbine created a test world, where they put in some effort to properly balance ac's magic / skill system. there would be no shame in borrowing "

7) Str/End disscussion
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You say, "so guys, serious question here,   Str/End  these days?"
Tribal Priestess says, "yes he does"
Veneficus says, "from already tried and true systems."
Deus De Ira says, "yes, occasionally"
Sylence says, "70/30, even though im 60/50"
Tehanu says, "I wish I'd gone 70/40, dizz...I went 50/50."
Deus De Ira says, "on non dt server 100 str, 10 end"
Sulphur says, "i need soooooo much more str still"
Opal says, "Depends on the template Dizzarian. "
Aerlinthian says, "I still like 70/40 myself"
Deus De Ira says, "on dt, 70 40, 60 50"
Sulphur says, "end is fine"
Deca prime says, "DIE"
Adamalon II says, "I went 50-60, not regretting it"
Opal says, "If I had spec'd manac and life, I'd go with more strength."
You say, "you think op?"
Tribal Priestess says, "aye..dt needs 100 str...unless you like the feel of hollows:)"
Sylence says, "im regretting going 60/50, shoulda gone 70/40"
Tehanu says, "after muling EVERYTHING yesterday for the invoker quest, I was still overburdened with 160 str."
Opal says, "If I had spec'd war, I'd go with more end"
Sylence says, "brb guys"
Deus De Ira says, "100 str doesnt help against hollows sylence"
You say, "hmm I can see if you have manac spec'd it' make a little differenct but that's about it"
Tribal Priestess says, "makes sense"
Opal says, "Some skills make it easier to deal with less endurance, than do others"
Veneficus says, "went with 65/45 myself. :) if i had it to do over again, i would go with 45 str, 65 end... or use even less str."
Aerlinthian says, "100 strength on DT ?, really I am surprised, I thought it would be around 50"
Opal says, "For example if you have spec'd manac and lore, do you really need stamina for stam-to-mana/revitalize during buffing?"
Tribal Priestess says, "it doesn't deus?"
Deca prime says, "LOL its vulned with 6 and i can only do 40 damage a hit"
Deus De Ira says, "no, how would it?"
You say, "funny war never hurts my mana it's always life and critter that drain my mana tank"
Deus De Ira says, "not like your going to evade it"
Veneficus says, "at level 113, while the str is nice, i'm mainly raising end and str hand-in-hand out of stubborn refusal."
Deca prime says, "DIEIEIEIEE"
Deca prime says, "O MABY ITS CUZ"
Sulphur says, "same dizz, and item to a lesser extent"
Tribal Priestess shrugs.
Tribal Priestess says, "but i figured you go 100 to were armor"
Deca prime says, "I dont have hp"
Deca prime says, "eer xp"
Deus De Ira says, "so long as your start with enough str to wear gsa, which is at least 50 preferably 60 str"
Deca prime says, "eer"
Opal says, "I raise endurance more these days on Opal because she always runs out of mana"
Deca prime says, "stam"
Tribal Priestess says, "gotcha"
Opal says, "At about 210 buffed strength, I'm not feeling pressed for more strength."
Sulphur says, "id reccomend 70 str at this point"
Deca prime says, "Hey since were all like mages Who votes to help me out with scroll"
Tehanu says, "ok, folks, I'm going to get some parchments for raffles...I'll be back in a bit."
Deus De Ira says, "started 60 50, wearing gsa top gsk bottom, after a restock, im buffed and 97% bu"
Deca prime says, "OO"
Veneficus says, "opal, the extra health isn't anything to sneeze at either. i run around with 282 health, and i feel like an unstoppable juggernaut at times."
Sulphur says, "i did 50 and i want to focus on other things other than str at this point but burden is forcing me to reconsider"
Tehanu says, "Shurov Thiguz"
Opal says, "If you make generous use of peas, and take advantage of @fillcomps, and use a level 7 strength buff, starting with 50 strength (or less) is quite mannageable"
Tribal Priestess says, "that is pretty nice V"
Opal nods at veneficus
You say, "dizz is always overburden but it doesn't bother me really"
Aerlinthian says, "ohh 282, that is a nice amount"
Deus De Ira says, "burden isnt a bad thing"
Deus De Ira says, "just too much of it"
Sylence says, "it is for me"
Sulphur says, "til you wanna carry more loot"
Adamalon II says, "I started 50 strength and I wear my GSA all the time, when buffed I'm under 100%"
Sylence says, "i never like to be above 100%"
Aerlinthian says, "I get 237 with life giver"
Deus De Ira says, "im comfy well up to like 130% bu"
You say, "I'd agree op, theses I'm liking 60/50 again or even 50/60"
Opal says, "I started 60/50.  If I could do it over again, probably 50/60.  I think a decent balance makes sense."
Veneficus says, "aer, only wish i had started with more endurance. my melee skill is never going to be something i rely upon... and i no longer have any burden issues, none to speak of at least."
Deus De Ira says, "sylence, why never like being over 100?"
Deus De Ira says, "i dont get it, are you an ex mele char?"
Sylence says, "i dunno"
Sylence says, "i do alot more than hunt"
Adamalon II says, "that annoying beeping noice?"
Sylence says, "i like to go out and explore"
Adamalon II says, "noise"
Sylence says, "cant stand going slow and getting hit for more"
Aerlinthian says, "yeah a lot of it depends on pack management "
Deus De Ira says, "burden doesnt cause you to get hit for more..."
Tribal Priestess says, "yes it does"
Opal says, "I have also found that when all you do is stand around by the lifestone chatting with people, strength & endurance don't matter too much"
Sylence says, "and i cant stand peas, i never use them"
Tribal Priestess says, "err...yes it does aer:)"
Aerlinthian says, "=p"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Sulphur says, "hehe opal"
Deca prime says, "Puish Zharil"
Tribal Priestess says, "peas are the greatest thing ever:)"
Sylence says, "they suck"

8) Arcane lore now Viable?
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You say, "ok next topic,  with the advent of major and minor items and the funky drum is arcane lore worth the skill credits now?"
Opal says, "I love peas."
Deus De Ira says, "no i promise, burden, on a char w/o mele d, does not in anyway affect damage"
Sylence says, "i never know which ones to buy"
You say, "peas are nice"
Veneficus says, "i'm not terribly efficient with my pack use either... excessive comps, excessive peas...all manner of gadgets hiding in the corners of my containers..."
Deca prime says, "Lol "
Sulphur says, "i just use peas for tapers "
Adamalon II says, "I think so Dizz"
Sulphur says, "some potions"
Aerlinthian says, "I am still out on that drizz but in general I think no still"
Opal says, "I hate lore because I hate having death items."
Sylence says, "i dont even use my focus stone, im not going to waste skill credits on arcane for 1 item"
Deca prime says, "Cruath Quasith"
Aerlinthian says, "Me to Opal"
Deca prime says, "Cruath Quasith"
Deca prime says, "sutpid spell"
Opal says, "I'm still scarred by those days where you used to spend 4 smalls for a low value low diff strength 6 ring."
Deus De Ira says, "you can equip it when you get 210 base focus sylence"
Tribal Priestess says, "i don't think you can argue much against +10 stackable spells"
Opal says, "Then drop it the first time you saw an augmented drudge"
You say, "oh the DI are something I hadn't considered"
Deca prime says, "god"
Aerlinthian says, "yep"
Sylence says, "i can equip the focus stone now"
Sylence says, "you dont have to have 210 focus"
Opal says, "Lore makes a lot of sense if you have a support structure that gives you all those nice lore items"
Deus De Ira says, "i was guessing"
Deca prime says, "LOL "
Opal says, "If you don't, then IMO its value is significantly lessened"
Deus De Ira says, "ive used iros for quite some time"
Adamalon II says, "I carry half a pack worth of DIs now"
Jjenter name tells you, "Oh man I am going to mock this kid when he gets back from vacation solely for the characters on this server :)"
Sulphur says, "i dunno, at some points i hate the thought of lore, others id welcome it"
Deca prime says, "IF you debuff em with a level 6 they like only give you 1 xp if you do with 4 they give you 277"
Deus De Ira says, "i carry 2 full packs of 5 - 7k dis :P but i have to :)"
You say, "Yup that's why I never thought arcan first on a bm was viable"
Opal says, "Then again, someone on FF paid $500 for major war gauntlets"
Jjenter name tells you, "Oh by the way - Is this your home server?"
Sylence says, "im tossing around if i should take leader or not"
You tell Jjenter name, "nope"
Sylence says, "so many good chain on HG"
Veneficus says, "the major items... a curse, but the genie is out of the bottle. if i find some major items that are of use to me, such as war or magic d... i'm going to want to use it."
Sulphur says, "still shootin for healing at 105 tho, altho richter is trying to talk me into melee at 125 heh"
Jjenter name tells you, "Oh"
Veneficus says, "that means i need to bother with death items."
Veneficus says, "at level 113, i've never bothered with DIs"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Aerlinthian says, "part of the problem with lore is that you get sucked into having to manage usable items to make it worth while but lore does come in handy for certain quests"
You say, "my vassel blame is holding for healing also"
Jjenter name tells you, "He has a Small shard from a doll he turned in a long time ago, I'll have to find someone to give it to"
Aerlinthian says, "dispel traps are brutal"
Opal says, "I took lockpick, no regrets."
Deus De Ira says, "dont get mele on your bm...."
Veneficus says, "always been somewhat of a no-drop mage... i wear storebought platmail gaunts for goodness sakes! :p"
Sulphur says, "is akkah showing up anyone know ?"
Adamalon II says, "dispell traps suck"
Deus De Ira says, "please dont do that"
Tribal Priestess says, "i was kinda leaning toward lockpick myself too"
Deca prime says, "LOL"
Deca prime says, "my god"
Deus De Ira says, "dont gimp yourself"
Sylence says, "yeah how is lockpick working out opal? would you reccommend it over other skills?"
Opal says, "Oooh akkah, there is someone whose brain I'd want to mine"
Deca prime says, "Ok enof abay druge killing"
You say, "lp was looking great with the exec/ob combo on ML but since they took that out I'm not for sure"
Deus De Ira says, "you came all this way to be ube, dont get mele d"
Opal says, "I can't really say Sylence.  It was fun carving all those sing keys I'd been carrying for 15 levels.  But now I don't play AC much so I'm not sure if I can judge."
Sulphur says, "aye dizz, the obs on ml are being stingy of late"
Sylence says, "ah"
Veneficus says, "melee d is looking quite nice now, simply to be able to use the major cantrips."
Opal says, "The benefit is that it lets you do things that you simply couldn't do before"
Deus De Ira says, "why not lore then..."
Spyrogyro says, "howdie all"
Sylence says, "but seeing as the value of sings is dropping, im not sure if itd be a great idea"
Tribal Priestess says, "hello"
Opal says, "Lore makes it more convenient to do things you're already doing (buffig) but doesn't open doors in and of itself"
Aerlinthian says, "Hello"
Sulphur says, "i dunno Ven, i have seen more (many more) with missile req than melee"
You say, "hi spyro glad you finally made it, sorry for the wrong coords"
Adamalon II says, "hail"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Deus De Ira says, "name one thing that that mele d lets you do you cant now"
Opal says, "Hi!"
Sulphur says, "hail and well met adamalon"
Deca prime says, "uhh"
Deca prime says, "hmm"
Sylence says, "fight hollows and thats it"
Deca prime says, "use melee req items"
Sulphur says, "wear armor"
Deus De Ira says, "you can already do that"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Aerlinthian says, "solo Elysa's favor"
Adamalon II says, "lol I still need to do Elysa's favor :)"
Opal says, "I think melee defense is also one of those skills that makes life easier, but doesn't open doors in and of itself."
Sulphur says, "evade med level mobs"
You say, "if rival was here we would be squelching him right about now"
Deca prime says, "I like healing"
Sylence says, "rival?"
Opal shivers.
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe same here adam"
Aerlinthian says, "I tried last night, spawn rate ws too fast"
Deca prime says, "healing is cool"
Opal surrenders, "Please don't hurt me!"
Deca prime says, "my first mage was like"
Deca prime says, "a"
Veneficus says, "btw, as i'm sure many of you know, the baudren doesn't stack with cantrips. focusing stone does... if you don't have any will cantrips, they're both somewhat equally valuable."
Deca prime says, "opal with healing"
Deca prime says, "eer"
Deca prime says, "yah"
Deca prime says, "but"
Opal says, "My first mage was war/cooking spec"
Deca prime says, "not exatly"
Deca prime says, "LOL"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
You take a quick drink.
Adamalon II says, "hehehe"
Veneficus says, "otherwise, focusing stone still reigns."
Sulphur says, "nah cuz you have to train lore with the baudren, you dont with the f stone"
Deca prime says, "Well i started with like critter spec and mana con spec and some other stuff trained"
Veneficus says, "wonder if that was an over-sight on their part."
Deus De Ira says, "this is my first mage, all train, lore and alchy"
Deca prime decides to rest for a while.
Aerlinthian says, "I got the buadren a few days ago, going to suck to carry it around till 125 when I get lore"
Aerlinthian says, "=Þ"
Veneficus says, "sul, well yeah, that goes without saying. my comment was made for those with arcane lore."
Tribal Priestess sits down.
Spyrogyro decides to rest for a while.
Opal says, "If I got Opal to 95 I'd take healing next, then lore last (115 - wow!)"
Sulphur says, "i think the onlt reason ill make one is to go die in portal space >;)"
Tribal Priestess says, "haha"
You say, "really?"
Veneficus says, "i'm still somewhat partial to the focusing stone. extra mana is nice, but i'm not hurting for mana... if i was it wouldn't be so bloody cheap to raise."
Opal says, "It's just soooooooo boring to level that far.  I don't know how some of you do it."
Veneficus says, "opal, xp chains :)"
Sulphur says, "aye opal, it gets tedious"
Veneficus says, "opal, and alliegances in general"
Deus De Ira says, "yea opal, hes right"
You say, "agreed dizz is pretty much a none leveler anymore at level 65"
Aerlinthian says, "focusing stone for big game hunting but I don't use it for simple stuff, the extra 50 mana is too nice"
Deus De Ira says, "after 70, its all about chains"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...i've lvled twice since i graduated last september"
Opal iso xp chain can u let me join plz plz NE1!!!!1!1!1
Veneficus says, "i stopped hunting for xp several months ago."
Opal iso xp chain can u let me join plz plz NE1!!!!1!1!1
Opal iso xp chain can u let me join plz plz NE1!!!!1!1!1
Opal iso xp chain can u let me join plz plz NE1!!!!1!1!1
Opal iso xp chain can u let me join plz plz NE1!!!!1!1!1
Aerlinthian says, "lol"
Sulphur says, "hehe"
Sylence says, "Can cantrips be stacked with Cantrips? Ex: Minor will stacked with Major will, equaling 20 will?"
Tribal Priestess )
You say, "rofl"
Deus De Ira says, "i find the 4 points to mana c makes up alone for the loss of 50 mana, when your casting 7s, 50 mana is a freaking joke"
Adamalon II says, "nope, don't think so"
Sulphur says, "no sylence"
Aerlinthian says, "seriously doubt that"
Sylence says, "k, just checking"
Deus De Ira says, "one non converted spell can eat 70 alone"
Sulphur says, "heh other wise id find 8 major war items and rock the house >:)"
Sylence says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "hey tehanu"
Tehanu says, "I'm back..."
Aerlinthian says, "here is something for you folks you may find interesting"
Deca prime says, "so am i"
Veneficus says, "lol... opal, you may not approve of 'em, but i don't consider monster bashing drudgery to be an inspiring game mechanic. (perhaps i misinterpretted you)"
Opal says, "Hey, what is the top end spellcraft on the new lore items?"
Sylence says, "raf-fle raf-fle raf-fle"
Aerlinthian says, "my creature and mana C both cost the same now"
Deca prime says, "OK EVERYONE IM BROKE SO I NEED SUMTIN"
Sulphur says, "the baudren is 325 i think"
Opal says, "Anything interesting?  Has it changed?"
Deca prime says, "SO IF ANY LEVEl 1 WINS LIKE GIVE IT TO ME"
Sylence says, "Deca, this is a gathering, not a begging fast"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Opal says, "I've always wondered whether we'd see more super high spellcraft, ranked war magic wands again"
Sulphur says, "whats it at aerlinth"
Zerf tells you, "10.5n 53.5e right?"
Opal says, "Like the one Eldar has on.. MT?"
You tell Zerf, "yup you got it"
Aerlinthian says, "my creature and mana C both cost the same now"
Zerf tells you, "You listed it wrong on your site!"
Tehanu says, "well...prizes are not necessarily great, lol"
Aerlinthian says, "each are at about 4 mill to raise"
Deca prime says, "usualy begging doesnt follow with Lol usualy a sarcastic message"
Zerf tells you, "Slip of the hand I suppose"
Tribal Priestess says, "like the ones from the early das of ac...opal?"
Sylence says, "you hadnt said lol yet =-P"
You tell Zerf, "yup I suck"
Sulphur says, "you gettin better returns on mana c yet ?"
Zerf tells you, "Heh"
Opal says, "Yes.  450 spellcraft stuff, etc"
Aerlinthian says, "with buffed mana C being at 290 and I do want more"
Zerf tells you, "It happens"
Veneficus says, "the baudren strikes me as a non-mage item... a) non-mages are hurting for mana, b) they get a nice war spell, costly but nice, with a decent spellcraft"
Opal says, "Eldar had a rank 10 wand that I think cast shock wave 6 with a spellcraft of 450+"
Deca prime says, "Thats so lame"
Opal says, "It was rank 10, he was rank 10 so he actually could use it and killed the behemoth with just it"
Sylence says, "but its an orb"
Deca prime says, "LOl"
You say, "wow"
Tehanu gives you Parchment.
Aerlinthian says, "Thank you Tehanu"
Deus De Ira says, "what is spellcraft on baudren?"
Adamalon II says, "yeah his wand of death or something like htat"
Opal says, "Yup.  Nothing in AC could resist it"
Veneficus says, "of course as many others have suggested, this isn't the appropriate way to provide some semblance of 'balance'..."
Aerlinthian says, "320"
Deca prime says, "Uhh i got a nuber"
Deca prime says, "Uhh i got a nuber"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...i remember those..think i pulled and diff 390 helm outta mage academy long ago:)"
Deus De Ira says, "yea fist called it elders wand of death right?"
Opal says, "What is this?"
Deca prime says, "I wanted mines to be a letter take it back"
Adamalon II says, "yeah think so Deus"
Deca prime says, "lo l"
Zerf tells you, "What a haul"
Deca prime says, "ty "
Tehanu says, "hmmm...just realized there are fewer people than numbers..."
You tell Zerf, "haul?"
Sylence says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "well tahts ok"
Deus De Ira says, "i didnt get a number"
Adamalon II says, "he smacked around the Queen too I think"
Veneficus says, "what's the highest spellcraft you can find these days in the loot-o-matic?"
You say, "zerf is on his way"
Zerf tells you, "Was hoping it would be closer to the dropoff"
Deca prime says, "wait"
Tehanu says, "I made 24 numbers..."
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Sulphur says, "best ive found is 270"
Deca prime says, "well thow some away"
Opal says, "I've found 275 items"
You tell Zerf, "nope we don't want to get a portal storm :)"
Adamalon II says, "don't forget me Tehanu :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "me too"
Deus De Ira says, "someone wore the kithless"
Deca prime says, "Cruath Quasith"
Adamalon II says, "I never find anything good on loot hehe"
You say, "oh someone here on hg gets a pack toy from me"
Deca prime failed to affect you with Imperil Other IV because Deca prime is not a player killer.
Zerf tells you, "Should've just had it at an outpost, or perhaps a unrestricted dungeon ;)"
Deca prime says, "wow i did 2 circles and i didnt movement fissle"
Veneficus says, "sounds about right. i see nothing wrong with putting a war magic req on items such as that, and allowing higher spellcrafts tho..."
Tribal Priestess says, "yippie! :)"
Deus De Ira says, "you just have to end up where you started deca"
Tehanu says, "well...excapt i've been handing them out at random...oh well, I'll just hand them all out, and when I roll a number up, if nobody has it, I'll just roll again :)"
Zerf tells you, "A Ruin, near Yanshi works nicely, for future reference :)"
Deca prime says, "waht tribal"
Opal says, "The winner also gets an... apple from me!"
Deus De Ira says, "Helkas Quasith"
Deca prime says, "really"
You say, "ohh ahhh"
Deca prime says, "well or close to it"
Deca prime says, "OK"
Sulphur says, "w00t"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Aerlinthian says, "apple ! *drool*"
Deus De Ira says, "i didnt get a number...."
Opal lags
Opal lags worse
Deca prime says, "the winner gets a parchment of the loosing nuber"
Deca prime says, "from me"
You say, "lol"
Aerlinthian says, "nasty spike there"
Spyrogyro says, "nor I"
Tribal Priestess says, "aye"
Adamalon II says, "aye, we get those hehe"
Zerf tells you, "You are fatally punctured by Tumerok Standard Bearer!"
Zerf tells you, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "i got a number"
Deca prime says, "so did i"
Sylence says, "woo, go matty robe"
Zerf tells you, "I'm making a faster character, I'll get there eventually"
Adamalon II says, "thnx :)"
Tehanu says, "ok, who does not have a number?"
Opal says, "Just FYI I have to go in about 15 minutes.  It is sunny and the temperature is actually above freezing."
Sulphur says, "hehe"
Deca prime says, "I win my nuber in scrolls"
Spyrogyro says, "I don't"
Tribal Priestess )

9) Talk of Dt meeting and Evil Opal
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Deus De Ira says, "lol... this on dt.... haha.... omg... dan that would be funny...."
Deca prime says, "damn you you won"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Opal says, "We should do this on DT someday"
Deca prime says, "ded"
Tehanu says, "anyone else not have a number?"
Opal says, "I have a super powerful mage there"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Opal says, "Her name is Opal-the-feared.  She is level 2"
Deus De Ira says, "i do :)"
You say, "one of these days we will"
Tehanu says, "don't be too psyched...my prizes are kinda lame..."
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Opal says, "For some reason, everyone keeps killing her"
Aerlinthian says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Sylence says, "i have a dude named....sylence"
Deus De Ira says, "lol, goes that way opal, get ganked until you hit 45 ish"
Veneficus says, "nothing to get terribly excited about. we'll get killed several times, we'll resurrect... rince, repeat."
Sylence says, "lvl 4 life spec UA"
Sulphur says, "hey deca yer under gustak, coo >:)"
Opal says, "Actually if anyone ever meets the Opal of DT, please let me know"
You say, "oh is it not you?"
Veneficus says, "unless we could get some high level dt'ers to come."
Deca prime says, "Feazh Zhapaj"
Opal says, "No.  I only know that she is mean"
Sylence says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess reads something.
Opal says, "Apparently she was terrorizing some poor low level people so much that they moved to FF"
Sylence reads something.
You say, "that sucks, I have dizzarian on every server"
Deus De Ira says, "haha"
Deca prime says, "these things are mana mansines drain hp hp to mana"
Opal says, "Then they saw me and thought I was her and I started getting harassing "you can't kill us here can you n00b!!!" tells all the time"
Sulphur says, "i have a mini monarchy started on FF heh"
Aerlinthian says, "heh"
Deus De Ira says, "poor opal :("
Deus De Ira says, "darktiders can be such assholes"
Sylence says, "sure can"
Tribal Priestess says, "aye..they can be"
Sylence says, "i found a nice blood once"
Deus De Ira says, "the nice part is if they are an asshole, you can kill them, unlike here"
Tribal Priestess )
Deus De Ira says, "there are a ton of nice bloods"
Veneficus says, "opal, riiiiiiight... fess up. we won't come to any definitive judgements about you on the basis of your...questionable...pass ;)"
Veneficus says, "pass=past"
Deca prime says, "Do we win anything fromt he raffel or is it just cuz"
Spyrogyro )
Aerlinthian says, "different game, it takes a different approach to enjoy it ;)"
Opal shakes her fist.
Opal says, "I think it would be somewhat fun."
Tehanu says, "ok, I gave out 12 parchments...I think I can have some sort of prize for all."
Tribal Priestess says, "cool"
Deca prime says, "WHAT THE HECK 250 and i have fissled 10 times on"
Deus De Ira says, "still cant beleive you can walk through people"
Deca prime says, "level 5"
Tehanu says, "if you are not on HG, and want to donate your prize to someone who is, please do so :)"
Deca prime says, "well i came planed to loose"
Sylence is on HG
Veneficus says, "teh, i'd sooner give it to a town crier! ;p"
Deca prime says, "Lol "
Deca prime says, "ven"
Deca prime says, "thats not nice"
Tehanu says, "also, reminder...prizes are LAME, so...I just kinda decided to do this, and am just reaching deep into my pack here..."

10) Robe discussion
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You say, "ok next topic, Robes which is best?"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Sylence says, "the robe robe"
Opal says, "Hooded faran"
Veneficus tries to give Deca a stern look
Deus De Ira says, "NONE, HOLLOWS SUCK!"
Sulphur says, "the hooded hoary"
Tehanu says, "anyone else lacking a number?"
Opal says, "hooded hoary?!"
Tribal Priestess says, "gelidate robe:)"
Sulphur says, "oh wait ..."
You say, "hooded hoary lol"
Aerlinthian says, "they suck less when you have a 220+ suit :)"
Sulphur says, "thats my dream heh"
Tehanu says, "can't give gelidite robes, otherwise, that might have been a prize!"
Opal says, "I liked the canescent robes before they made them ugly"
Veneficus says, "they should buff the geledite a bit... 20 al... make it the only robe with a base al that also has a hood."
Deus De Ira says, "lol... yea...but you cant hold that suit on dt"
Sylence says, "canescent (red) pwns if you can cast 7's"
Adamalon II says, "bah Robes! "
Tribal Priestess says, "mine dream is a blanket with two eyeholes poked through:)"
Aerlinthian says, "thats true to, hehe"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
You say, "oh god I thought they were uglier before"
Sylence says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "you can kill yourself and they drop"
Opal says, "Do the major war/creature/item items stack with exarch?"
You say, "I notice no one wears or names a virindi shroud why is that?"
Veneficus says, "opal, from what i hear, no."
Aerlinthian says, "hmm"
Opal says, "That sucks!"
Sylence says, "i dunno how to get them"
Deus De Ira says, "would someone explain what they were thinking with the exarch, please?"
Sylence says, "do they have any AL?"
Opal says, "I loved the exarch."
Deca prime says, "Cuz im a nebie dizz LOl"
Deus De Ira says, "how can anyone possibly use it on dt"
Sylence says, "i lost my exarch"
Deca prime says, "and cuz"
Deca prime says, "me dont no how to get "
Aerlinthian says, "10 point to creature, war and item is awesome when your war spec"
Sulphur says, "exarch is great for brood hunting, thats about all id use it for tho"
You say, "me too don't you bad mouthing the exarch man :)"
Deus De Ira says, "its dropable... valuable... and hollow vulnerable"
Sulphur says, "real pain to buff"
Opal says, "Exarch buffed = AL400 top to bottom, I like it."
Deca prime says, "Lol i have to be at the end of the line LOl"
Sylence says, "Pallium is the best!!! lol"
Zerf says, "Who is based upon this server?"
You say, "I always wear the top, I rarely wear a robe"
Deca prime says, "I luv the pallium"
Deca prime says, "Me"
Adamalon II says, "I am"
Opal says, "I used nerfus buffus to buff it for me.  It works pretty well, and I avoid hollows anyway."
Sylence says, "me"
Tribal Priestess says, "I am"
Sulphur rases his hand
Deca prime says, "hey opal"
Sylence says, "nerfus buffus freezed my computer"
Sylence says, "i wish i could use it"
Sylence says, "feezes*"
Zerf has a small and some pack critters on his friends account
Sylence says, "grr"
Deus De Ira says, "yea, but you cant avoid hollows on dt, and you cant go back to get boddies most of the time :("
Deca prime says, "could you help me set it up later"
Sylence says, "freezes"
Adamalon II says, "I used to wear my Exarch top until the neo GSA came out"
Opal says, "I guess but there isn't much to setup.  I think I downloaded it, installed it, and it worked."
Opal shrugs.
Deca prime says, "I want a pallium so bad"
Tehanu says, "ok...first lame-o prize is...two wood hearts, lol"
Opal says, "I haven't seen the new GSA yet"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Aerlinthian says, "you would think that a pallium would be 220 AL to hollow katars since it has chorizite threads in it"
Deus De Ira says, "new gsa owns"
Opal says, "I have a pallium, it's very pretty but that's about it."
Adamalon II says, "look at me Opal :)"
Tribal Priestess pays she wins!
Sylence says, "this is the new GSA"
Tehanu says, "and it goes to #20!"
Tribal Priestess says, "prays rather"
Deca prime says, "it looks almost like msa"
Opal says, "Does that have stones in it?"
Tribal Priestess says, "dang"
Opal says, "Um"
You say, "damn "
Opal says, "Im #20"
You say, "I'm 3"
Aerlinthian says, "wood hearts !, and I forgot to train LP on this guy"
Sylence says, "you cant stone the new GSA"
Veneficus says, "buffing is the plight of every mage... you want true mage love? give us a sheet with some super-long quest to find eye-hole punchers for it. somewhat mentioned that long ago."
Adamalon II says, "nope, new GSA isn't stonable"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "ive gone through three pals on dt already, get it from pk, loose it to pk, they are dis over there"
Deca prime says, "what did you get opal"
Veneficus says, "so, i'm mainly a robe-guy..."
Zerf says, "I like the nGSA"
Opal says, "What did I win?"
Opal says, "OMG"
Aerlinthian says, "#10"
Opal says, "OMG OMG OMG"
Deca prime says, "what"
Opal says, "Tehanu gives you Wood Heart."
Sulphur says, "hehe"
Aerlinthian says, "woot !"
Sylence says, "lmao"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Zerf says, "lol"
Dizzarian is jealous
Tehanu says, "LOL"
Opal says, "It's what I always wanted."
Deca prime says, "that was nuber 1 prize"
Sylence says, "woohoo"
Deus De Ira says, "lol"
Spyrogyro :)
Deus De Ira says, "so they go downhill from here?"
Sylence says, "LMAO"
Tribal Priestess can't belives she lost
Aerlinthian says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "lol last place in -5 pyreal"
Opal is trading wood heart for shards plz @tell with offers
Opal is trading wood heart for shards plz @tell with offers
Opal is trading wood heart for shards plz @tell with offers
Opal is trading wood heart for shards plz @tell with offers
Aerlinthian says, "aww Tribal"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Deca prime says, "LOL"
Deus De Ira says, "haha :)"
You let out a hearty laugh.
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Adamalon II says, "I love the stats on this armor, and I don't even mind buffing it :)"
Deus De Ira says, "i really want to make a people pyramid :("
Sylence says, "was that the only prize teh?"
Tehanu says, "ok, prize number 2 will be...an olthoi helm"
Deca prime says, "You have to be Pk deus"
Tribal Priestess says, "be nice"
Deca prime says, "prepatch"
Opal smacks her head.
Deus De Ira says, "i know that deka"
Deca prime says, "or post"
Opal says, "Now that's a prize!"
Deus De Ira says, "i know that all too well... :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "olds school?"
Tehanu says, "no, everybody gets a prize, just trying to make them diverse..."
Veneficus wants a prize
Zerf says, "Yeah AL 395 Unparalleled is quite nise, isn't it Adamalon? :)"
Deca prime says, "is it preparched"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Sulphur says, "anyone completed a stave of palenqual yet ?"
Deca prime says, "Uhh yah"
Deca prime says, "well not me"
Sylence says, "i want one of those"
Adamalon II says, "395? try 410 :)"
Tehanu says, "olthoi helm #1 goes to #9"
Opal says, "I am donating 100 pyreals to the prize fund!"
Deca prime says, "but i have seen it"
Sylence says, "the rubble one"
Aerlinthian says, "as a BM Exarch really helped me a lot bwteen 40 and 70 but I admit I wear it less now except when I badly need every point"
You say, "I've done like 0 quest on ML"
Tribal Priestess says, "woot!"
Tribal Priestess says, "i won!"
Opal says, "yay!"
Tehanu says, "who's number 9?"
Sulphur says, "i have ta use my lobies to get the rubble heh"
Zerf says, "I did Ralirea this morning with my friends Daggerman"
Veneficus says, "Your base Assess Person skill is now 106!"
Deca prime says, "Puish Zhafeth"
Veneficus says, "$$$"
Tribal Priestess says, "first time i actually win anything:)"
Deca prime says, "Feazh Zhapaj"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Sylence says, "ive made over 100k standing here"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Deca prime says, "how"
Opal says, "speech!!"
Zerf says, "It took me 5 minutes, I was shocked"
Sylence says, "chain"
Tehanu says, "ok, next prize is...5 gems of purity"
Veneficus says, "sylence, that's all? :) gimp'd chain!"
Veneficus )
Sylence says, "ooh me me me"
Deca prime says, "whats a gem of purity"
Veneficus says, "..;)"
You say, "come on big money no whammies"
Deca prime says, "is that the good ones"
Deca prime says, "???"
Tribal Priestess clears throat..i'd like to thank the academy....
Sylence says, "lol im in a crappy chain, but at least the people in it are good"
Aerlinthian says, "level 5 dispel"
Sulphur says, "Malar Casith"
Adamalon II says, "nope, lvl V ones :)"
Tehanu says, "which go to #6"
Deca prime says, "o hehe"
Sylence says, "woohoo"
Sylence says, "me"
Deca prime says, "maby you shouldent annonce the prize first"
Sylence experiences quite the feeling!
Sylence says, "thanks teh :)"
Tehanu says, "heh..."
Veneficus says, "before the fellowship nerf, chains were making obscene ...no, no...horrifically wicked amounts of xp"
Deca prime says, "that way its a surprise"
Tehanu says, "ok, will try that."

11) Troop's Interview on stratics
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Tribal Priestess says, "any of you guys read troop's interview at at stratics?"
Adamalon II says, "aye"
Opal says, "no"
You say, "yup"
Deus De Ira says, "yea, it was decent"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Sylence says, "pretty"
You say, "I liked the bm comment"
Veneficus says, "logged in to 50+ million once in a 24 hour period."
Deca prime says, "PURDY"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Zerf says, "Only the excerpt posted on the vault"
Deca prime says, "no you havent"
Tehanu says, "ok...next prize goes to #11"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "I AM 11"
Deca prime says, "ME MEMMEMEMEMEM"
Deca prime says, "w000t"
Deca prime says, "i won sumtin"
Tehanu says, "you get an essence flare"
Sylence says, "you're 11 years old?"
Deca prime says, "really"
Deca prime says, "sweet"
Aerlinthian says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "ty"
You say, "he said that melee should feel like they can compete execpt for may with a life/war spec'd mage"
Zerf says, "Anyone here from TD?"
Sylence says, "lol"
Sylence says, "nice"
Deus De Ira says, "me"
Deca prime says, "LOL my mana isnt high enof to use it lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah i like that part"
Adamalon II says, "yep that was cool :)"
Deus De Ira says, "whats up zerf"
Opal says, "ouch"
Zerf says, "Nothing really"

12) more silliness                                                              
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Tehanu says, "next id #18"
Deca prime says, "Malar Ealoi"
Deus De Ira says, "you from dt?"
Deca prime says, "Malar Ealoi"
Zerf says, "TD"
You say, "I do dt ocassionaly"
Tehanu says, "er...is"
Deca prime says, "Malar Eaja"
Sulphur says, "w00t im 18 >:)"
Tehanu says, "next is #18"
Deca prime says, "Malar Casith"
Deus De Ira says, "haha, you said td..."
Deca prime says, "what did you win"
Deus De Ira says, "my bad"
You say, "duck"
Sylence says, "dizz where do you hang out on DT? i'll be your vassal =-P"
You say, "duck"
Zerf shrugs.
You say, "duck"
You say, "duck"
You say, "duck"
You say, "duck"
Sulphur says, "w00t!"
Sylence ducks
Aerlinthian says, "quack ?"
Zerf says, "DT when TD goes down (ie often)"
You say, "goose"
Aerlinthian says, "=p"
Deca prime says, "Im a goose"
Tehanu says, "sulphur gets a SIK"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "looks like i won diz :)"
Sulphur says, "yaaaaaay me !"
Tribal Priestess )
Opal says, "Everyone, I regret to announce that I have to leave.  I have to enjoy the first sunshine I have seen in weeks"
Deca prime says, "Malar Caril"
You say, "ohhh ahh pretty colors"
Sylence says, "cya later opal"
Veneficus waves to Opal...
Opal says, "Thank you dizzarian for organizing this - let's do this on FF one day!"
Opal waves high in the air.
Spyrogyro says, "cya"
Sylence says, "you live in london or something?"
You say, "opal I'm so gald you came"
Opal waves high in the air.
Zerf says, "Goodbye Opal"
Adamalon II says, "hehe cyas Opal, nice meeting ya :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...someone does things other than ac? shocking:)"
Dekkon says, "bye"
Sulphur says, "be safe opal, it was good to meet you finally >:)"
Tribal Priestess says, "cya opal!"
Deus De Ira says, "cool, it was an honor opal, i hope you continue to post"
Deca prime says, "sweet i had to buff to use it but sweet"
Sylence says, "nice meeting you opal"
Aerlinthian says, "Bye Opal !"
Opal says, "can anyone tell me which is more uber og or bm ty"
Deca prime says, "its 10 more mana"
Opal cringes
Aerlinthian says, "=p"
Sylence says, "BM"
Zerf says, "lol"
Sulphur says, "LOL"
You say, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "boo! <bg>"
Deca prime says, "What was the last prize "
Adamalon II says, "BM!"
Deus De Ira says, "the ugh mage is :)"
Zerf says, "Life/UA"
Zerf says, "lol"
Sulphur says, "MOG!"
Sylence says, "moo"
Tehanu says, "got more, just making sure I have some for everyone..."
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Zerf says, "The Grajjir template"
Veneficus says, "this contest has been fixed"
Veneficus says, "!!@#"
You say, "lol"
You dance, "Look at me! I'm dancin crazy!"
Aerlinthian looks around
Deca prime grabs more parchment and writes all the nubers on it muhahahah
Veneficus says, "check out my jump....this is completely unencumbered"
Tehanu says, "lol...I worte down the numbners I gave out and am crossing them off as I roll them on dice."
You take a quick drink.
Tribal Priestess says, "welll...what did you expect V....."
Deca prime says, "ahhh"
Tehanu says, "ok, next number is #8"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "white men can't jump! :)"
Adamalon II says, "that be me :)"
You say, "hehe"
Tehanu says, "#8 gets a blue orb"
Zerf says, "You are fatally punctured by Tumerok Standard Bearer!"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Zerf says, "Ooopsie"
Adamalon II says, "ooh cool :)"
Zerf says, "Oak Target Drudge evaded your attack."
Deca prime says, "LOl"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Deca prime says, "I weakend it for you"
Deca prime says, "hey teh"
Deca prime says, "ty"
Adamalon II says, "thnx Teh :)"
Sylence says, "i need some grievver acid"
You say, "lol "Oak drudge tell you "get this fool off me"""
Sylence says, "to get my exarch back"
Tehanu says, "lol"
Deus De Ira )
Tribal Priestess says, "will there be a lot more monsters like the VEC's? immune to war magic?"
Tehanu says, "next number is #12"
Zerf says, "VEC = ?"
Spyrogyro says, "That's me"
Sylence says, "virindi energy cluster"
Veneficus says, "tribal, they're not immune. they're just very...resilient. :)"
Adamalon II says, "VECs are imune to war?"
Tribal Priestess says, "virindi energy clusters"
Zerf says, "Ah"
Tribal Priestess says, "oh i see"
Tehanu says, "ok, spyo gets 20 drudge gut sausages."
Adamalon II says, "oh yeah they counter buff right?"
Aerlinthian says, "sorry was afk"
Deca prime thinks it is sub and shouts" Anyone have a hiromancers for trade
Zerf says, "Anyone ever Imped an Ascendant?"
Sylence says, "man i got ripped off"
Spyrogyro says, "Yummy"
Sylence says, "ive killed an ascendant"
Sylence says, "1 hit"
Zerf says, "....With 265 Life?"

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You say, "anyone reading the new journals on my site?"
Adamalon II says, "I've killed one as well, but not with 265 buffed life hehe"
Deus De Ira says, "whats the resistance on ascendents?"
Aerlinthian says, "yes Ascentdents arn't so bad now and I can single shot them when the spell lands"
Tribal Priestess says, "saviors hand is pretty good"
Veneficus says, "i was hitting them for around (the highest level vecs) 20... usually it was around 14. that was with a vuln vii..."
Deus De Ira says, "thats one of the few monsters ive never killed"
Veneficus says, "and war vii..."
Adamalon II says, "yeah I've read some"
Veneficus says, "tough little buggers"
Tehanu says, "next is #4"
Deca prime says, "Hmm how do you have 99 out of 99 mana if you got 100 self"
Sylence says, "yeah...im hungry for some old school journals though, when are you gonna come out with another dizz?"
Zerf says, "Hehe I Imped one with my 265 Life back on TD :)"
Deca prime says, "Hmm how do you have 99 out of 99 mana if you got 100 self"
Aerlinthian says, "seems around 365 ish"
Veneficus says, "teh, woot! 4!"
Zerf says, "Vitae"
Adamalon II says, "vitae"
Tribal Priestess says, "well does a monster like VEC's promote more grouping?"
Tehanu says, "another olthoi helm"
Veneficus says, "teh... i shouldn't have spoke up until you announced the prize. now you're gonna give me something cheap..."
Veneficus says, "no one likes me :("
Veneficus says, "oh, woot"
Sylence says, "anyone give me an M for a sik? heh"
Aerlinthian says, "what is a VEC plz ?"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Tehanu says, "I'm picking the prize before I roll the #, heh"
Veneficus looks evil
Deca prime says, "Lol"
You say, "dizzarian's journals may be at an end but my opal mage might start journals"
Adamalon II says, "Virindi Energy Cluster"
Veneficus says, "teh, lies!"
Veneficus says, "damned lies!"
Deca prime says, "virindie engery cluster"
Tehanu says, "heh heh"
Tribal Priestess says, "virindi energy cluster..the monsters in portal space dungeon"
Adamalon II says, "nice portal space baddy"
Aerlinthian says, "ohh, those things are impossible for me"
Tehanu says, "next is...#7"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "that was my idea "
You say, "In fact I already have 1 written for him"
Dekkon says, "w00t i won"
Aerlinthian says, "don't think I landed on them but 5 times"
Veneficus says, "portal space dungeon is actually going to be a walk in the park once they 'fix' the quid rifts."
Zerf says, "i r suq at getting my number picked"
Tribal Priestess says, "true"
Tehanu says, "another 5 gems of purity for you"
Aerlinthian says, "at 374/375"
Spyrogyro says, "Well, I got to go, little one is open and raring to go, cya"
Spyrogyro says, "up"
Adamalon II says, "anyone know what lvl baddies are in the 50-59 section?"
Dekkon says, "hehe ty"
Aerlinthian says, "ok be well"
Deus De Ira says, "take care"
Zerf says, "Goodbye Spyrogyro"
Adamalon II says, "hehe cyas Spyro?"
Tribal Priestess says, "later spygro"
You say, "later sypro glad you could come"

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Tehanu says, "#16?"
Adamalon II says, "er no ? there :)"
Sylence says, "cya spyro"
Veneficus says, "who here is in MT?"
Deca prime says, "bye"
Sylence says, "Puish Zharil"
You say, "me ven what your char there?"
Veneficus says, "dizz, maajid"
Tehanu says, "anyone have #16?"
Sylence says, "Cruath Quasith"
Veneficus says, "i'm a sour old cuss..."
Deus De Ira says, "i do !"
Sylence says, "Cruath Quareth"
Deca prime says, "Cruath Quaril"
Deus De Ira experiences quite the feeling!
Veneficus says, "no one knows me ;)"
Deus De Ira says, "YES!"
Deca prime says, "eer"
Deus De Ira says, "IM # 16"
Zerf says, "oooooober"
You say, "lol, feel free to look me up some time"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Zerf says, "We got this"
Tehanu says, "sorry deus...wand of black fire for you :("
Deca prime says, "I rocksore"
Deus De Ira says, "badASS!"
Veneficus says, "i even have a little cottage deep in the woodlands... i've embraced the stereotype."
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Veneficus says, "drizz, interestingly, i've never seen you on."
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe..that is '99 uber deus...."
Adamalon II says, "btw, I wouldn't vuln the VECs, from what I hear they counter buff.. so you'd do the most damage with straight war"
Zerf says, "What's everyone's Run buff to? ;)"
Tehanu says, "#3 is next..."
Deus De Ira says, "some buff me to 270 war :)"
Veneficus says, "zerf, 395 i think"
Sulphur says, "hehe"
Tribal Priestess says, "all you need now is an old-school olthoi helm and a matte coat"
Veneficus says, "not sure"
Adamalon II says, "230 I think :)"
You say, "I don't play as much as I use to but I still go there quite a bit"
Zerf says, "I got my friend Creature today, Run buffs to 380 with VIs :)"
Tehanu says, "who has #3?"
Deca prime says, "hey slence"
Sylence says, "what"
Veneficus says, "dizz, aye. i mainly come out of the woodworks after patch updates."
You say, "I'm #3"
Deca prime says, "gimi your pallium"
Sylence says, "no thanks"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Deca prime says, "Yahhh dizz"
Deca prime says, "yahh dizz"
Tehanu says, "ah...dizz...two obsidian rings..."
Sulphur says, "well guys and gals, it was great to meet you all, i gotta run, the wife is leavin and i have boywatch >;)"
Aerlinthian says, "I buff over 300 run but with the lag lately it does not matter much :-/"
Tehanu gives you Obsidian Ring.
You say, "w0000t"
Tehanu gives you Obsidian Ring.
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...late sulp"
Deca prime says, "whats a obsidian ring"
Sylence says, "cya sulphur"
Sulphur says, "hunt safe and be well"
Aerlinthian says, "Ok be well Sulphur"
Adamalon II says, "lol k, cyas Sulphur :)"
Deca prime says, "bye"
Deus De Ira says, "take care sulphur"
Tehanu says, "#13 is the next number..."
You say, "later suphur, glad you came"
Tribal Priestess says, "hope to meet up with you at the aerlinthe quest"
Sulphur says, "look me up teh, well hunt sometime >;)"
Zerf says, "I'm gonna be heading out too, flexing the new found Daggerman muscle ;)"
Adamalon II says, "hehe"
Sylence says, "i wanna go on the aerlinthe quest =/"
Tehanu says, "ok, sulphur"
Sylence says, "im too low"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe, ok cya"
Deca prime says, "Ill be nuber 13 if no one esle is"
Deca prime says, "Lol"
Tehanu says, "#13 is the next number..."
Zerf says, "Me"
Zerf says, "I'm 13..."
Deca prime says, "lol"
You say, "I finally got the loot for aerlinthe last month"
Tehanu says, "zerf gets a nice silver heume."
Deca prime says, "HEy so am i i turned 13 on the 18th of this month"
Tehanu says, "and teh final number is...#10"
Veneficus says, "teh, i wasn't actually #4. that was a blatant lie on my part."
Veneficus says, "muhahaha"
Zerf waves lazily.
Deca prime says, "Ill take nuber 10"
Deus De Ira says, "Zojak Quati"
You say, "eek I'm pushing 29"
Deus De Ira failed to affect you with Whirling Blade III because Deus De Ira is not a player killer.
Tehanu says, "heh, well after this one, everyone should have received a prize..."
Tehanu says, "who has #10"
Aerlinthian says, "Me"
Deca prime says, "I will take it"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "don't feel bad dizz:)"
Aerlinthian waves high in the air.
Veneficus says, "teh, ok...i lied about lying."
Deus De Ira says, "Zojak Quati"
You say, "k raise your hand if you're on mt"
Deus De Ira failed to affect you with Whirling Blade III because Deus De Ira is not a player killer.
Sylence says, "lemme have tis one deca"
Sylence says, "Cruath Quasith"
Deca prime says, "what one"
Aerlinthian says, "Thanks =)"
Sylence says, "Cruath Quareth"
Aerlinthian says, "WOOT !"
You say, "errrm I ment rais your hand if your on HG"
Tehanu says, "aerlithian gets a pack golem"
Sylence says, "the drudge"
Deca prime says, "I kinda am dizz"
Deca prime says, "I AM"
Deca prime says, "hehe"
Tribal Priestess says, "me!"
Aerlinthian says, "a pack golems cool"
Deca prime says, "O a golem"
Adamalon II raises hand
Tehanu says, "prizes all gone!"
Deca prime says, "Ill take the golem"
Tehanu says, "did everybody get one?"
Aerlinthian says, "look at the little feller go"
Tribal Priestess says, "yes"
Veneficus spits.
Deca prime says, "ILL take it muhahahahahah"
Veneficus says, "ghastly beast"
Tehanu says, "cool!"
Veneficus spits.
Veneficus spits.
Aerlinthian says, "hehe practice goelms"
Deca prime says, "Ill take all off em"
You say, "fight"
Sylence says, "nooo"
Tribal Priestess says, "go little minions of death!"
Sylence says, "no way"
Sylence says, "no war"
Tehanu says, "heh heh"
Aerlinthian says, "hey speaking of tiny golems has anyone ever seent the tiny golems on ML ?"
Sylence says, "ack stop"
Sylence says, "stop with the war!"
Tribal Priestess says, "where are those things?"
Deca prime says, "whoes golem"
Deca prime says, "I could put in mansion"
Deus De Ira says, "sorry"
Tehanu says, "aerlithian won it, lol"
Aerlinthian says, "they are tiny diamond golems that say funny stuff"
Tehanu says, "ask him"
Tribal Priestess says, "i;d like to see one of those small golems too"
Deca prime says, "yo aeerlinthian"
Deus De Ira says, "i love small golems"
Sylence says, "they say stuff?"
Deus De Ira says, "they are soo much fun to hunt"
Adamalon II says, "it'd be funny if you could pick em up"
Deus De Ira says, "yea they say"
Deca prime says, "LOL"
Deus De Ira says, "BLOOOOODD!"
Aerlinthian says, "yeah funny stuff not seen it in a few months though"
Aerlinthian says, "yehah thats it"
Deus De Ira says, "and when they die"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Deus De Ira says, "ACK!!!"
Sylence says, "where do you find them?"
You give Deus De Ira Starter Nabut.
Aerlinthian says, "and they hit hard also"
Deca prime says, "hey"
Deus De Ira says, "they are just like diamond golems"
Deus De Ira says, "except fast"
You say, "k all those on HG guess a number between 1 and 100"
Tehanu says, "what the little golems?"
Adamalon II says, "and tiny :)"
Aerlinthian says, "they are even smaller then the golem here"
Deca prime says, "Hey gues there liches arround here"
Sylence says, "54"
You say, "put that away deus"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah on topheron's list don't they have pretty high war magic"
Tehanu says, "un...63"
Veneficus says, "103"
Tribal Priestess says, "23"
Adamalon II says, "49"
Veneficus says, "(since i'm not on HG)"
Aerlinthian says, "yeah that did seem low onn them"
You say, "k the correct answer is on the staff I gave you deus"
Deus De Ira says, "LOL!"
Deus De Ira says, "sorry diz"
You say, "go ahead say it"
Deus De Ira says, "the number is 34"
Sylence says, "$#%^$&"
You say, "tribal wins"
Tehanu says, "deca, might as well pick up the golem before it goes poof!"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Deus De Ira says, "lol... diz, im an idiot"
Adamalon II says, "yep, grats :)"
You give Tribal Priestess Pack Scarecrow.
Deca prime says, "ok"
Tribal Priestess says, "i win again! damn..i better take this luck to monty's:)"
Deca prime says, "ty"
Deus De Ira gives you Starter Nabut.
You give Tribal Priestess Obsidian Ring.
You give Tribal Priestess Obsidian Ring.
Tribal Priestess says, "thanks:)"
Tehanu says, "lol, tribal..."
You say, "lol"
Aerlinthian says, "I am not sure how long packs dolls stay before vanishing"
Sylence says, "boogie woogie woogie"
Aerlinthian says, "I think much longer than normal"
Adamalon II says, "FOREVER!"
You say, "I have a pack griever guarding my cottage"
Deca prime says, "LOl "
Aerlinthian says, "comps seems to have the shortest duration for time on the ground"
Adamalon II says, "but don't tell anyone, or we'll all be lagged to death"
Sylence says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "Malar Aeril"
Deca prime says, "he is funny"
Tehanu says, "I think they're stable on hooks..."
Deus De Ira says, "Malar Aeril"
Sylence says, "i have a two headed snowman guarding mine"
Veneficus says, "i have a golden gromnie guarding my abode... he's a feisty one."
Veneficus says, "gives a warmth to the place"
Deca prime says, "I HAVE A SNOW MAN THAT I GOT FOR MY B DAYY"
Aerlinthian says, "heh"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...got him on a leash V?"
Sylence says, "tribal looks fierce"
Adamalon II says, "I don't have a house :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "meow!"
You say, "anyone else have any mage topics?"
Deus De Ira says, "Cruath Quareth"
Tehanu says, "I don't have anything guarding my villa...waiting to come across a pack ursuin..."
Deca prime says, "I do"
Tribal Priestess says, "i have one as well...."
Deca prime says, "Does anyone have left over scrolls that they would sell to me"
Deca prime says, "lol"
Adamalon II says, "ok ah anyone know where to hunt for fire aurochs and dread ursuins?"
Adamalon II says, "erm dread matties"

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Veneficus says, "dizz, ok--what's the source of magic in ac? ley-lines of such potency, they permeate out and create a world-wide mana zone?"
Tehanu says, "yes, and yes, adamalon"
Tehanu says, "if anyone want to check out the new invoker, here it is."
Tehanu says, "I TV 6'd it"
You say, "erm... let me consulte my lore"
You say, "the answer is 6"
You say, "hehe"
Sylence says, "im number 6!"
Veneficus says, "hehe"
Adamalon II says, "perty"
Tribal Priestess says, "will we ever see a new lie of magic? are rain spells and the invoker just the start of something different?"
Tribal Priestess says, "line"
Veneficus says, "reminds me of a joke... here it is: 9"
Deus De Ira says, "doubtfull"
Deus De Ira says, "new magic will be ac 2"
Tehanu says, "adam, dread matties are hanging out with their lugian pals at those camps for the staff of clarity quest/linvak tukal thing"
You say, "it'd be cool but I doubt it"
Deca prime says, "I gtg soon guys"
Deus De Ira says, "due to funding tech and tiem"
Tehanu says, "make sure you wear armor when you hunt there...there are hollow tiatus raiders in the pack"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah true deus"
Adamalon II says, "my GSA be enough?"
Tribal Priestess says, "can't cast the spell tehanu?"
You say, "I think there's something under ground that causes the mana ven.. just think the lifestone sprot up everywhere"
Veneficus says, "turbine really botched the magic system in ac... and the skill system in general. very flat and undifferentiated."
Veneficus says, "it was their first whirl at it though..."
Tehanu says, "Fire aurochs are in the NW.  around the artifex vault are a couple of static spawns...coords are something like 26.9N, 39.1W"
Deus De Ira says, "and the plains has broken lifestones growing in it, and the plaisn are the center of the evil... so mana is either evil or guarded by evil...?"
Tehanu says, "and 29.6N, 39.1W"
Tribal Priestess says, "i think they messed up too...not too many difficult choices...cause you can get the stuff you want eventually"
Sylence says, "Malar Eati"
You say, "oh I found my dread coat nort of bandit castle, but I think that was a fluke"
Sylence failed to affect you with Force Bolt VI because Sylence is not a player killer.
Tehanu says, "I can't use the invoker yet...only level 62 now.  at 65 I WILL train arcane lore to use both it and this siraluun dress"
Veneficus says, "dizz, that's a good theory... you're referring to 'the great master'."
Sylence says, "godmoding is so easy with staffs"
Veneficus says, "however... the source of the mana, while unknown, was created by the Old Ones (Witch Gods)"
Tehanu says, "ow!"
Tehanu says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "yep, thats why i use impious on dt to chase people down if they run"
Veneficus says, "to imprison the great master... "
You say, "i like the skill system in ac, the free form of it is nice... go play AO and see how they botched it up"
Tehanu says, "I'm quoting those fire auroch coords off the top of my head, so they might be way off ;)"
You say, "yup everything resolves around thes crystals"
Adamalon II says, "hhee worth a try :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "well i like the fact that we have choice...i hate eq and daoc's class base junk"
Adamalon II says, "thanks a bunch Teh :)"
Tehanu says, "np"

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Deus De Ira says, "ac has one main advantage, its not turn based"
Veneficus says, "dizz, i enjoy free-form--but a detailed skill tree with more interesting restrictions strikes me as a far more interesting approach."
Tribal Priestess says, "aye"
Deus De Ira says, "get a good old quake feel :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Aerlinthian says, "I like the skill system myself for the most part but melees certain did get the short end of the stick and all spells should have been obtainable only thru scrolls "
Tehanu says, "there's a quest here on HG leaving in about 45 minutes for the invoker..."
Deus De Ira experiences quite the feeling!
Adamalon II says, "who is it I needed to contact for that Teh?"
Veneficus says, "aer, well, spells, on the whole, are a bit...over-powering. i don't think there's much argument about this, but what's done is done and there's little that can be done about that."
Deus De Ira experiences quite the feeling!
You say, "I think the problem here is the limited choices of skills, just think if we had 8 schools fo magic it would definitely change things up and make characters more varied"
Deus De Ira says, "the game is balanced for mages, or for meles"
Sylence says, "the impious staff is fun"
Tribal Priestess says, "agreed"
Tehanu says, "Calabow is the leader.  you will probably virtually skip the whole quest, and land in the next to last step which is the room where the empearians are trapped"
Aerlinthian says, "don't agree really, they brought in level VII's because VI's were too weak"
Deus De Ira says, "not when you compare mages to meles though"
Aerlinthian says, "I don't want to bring mages down, just melees up a bit"
Veneficus says, "dizz, indeed... one of the reasons i proposed a skill tree setup. i don't like the flat system; someone can pursue a certain path and gain minor proficiency at a wide variety of "
Adamalon II says, "k gotcha Tehanu"
Deus De Ira says, "yea the prob with trees is"
Veneficus says, "magicks, for instance...but to cast the more powerful spells of a certain group, one must pursue it through the skill tree..."
Adamalon II says, "there is apparently some major melee love planned for the next few months.. we'll have to see how it works"
Deus De Ira says, "once someone figures out the best tree, everyone becomes that tree"
Sylence says, "problem with AC is everyone has to have at least 1 or 2 skills to not be gimp, thus making everyone the same, only differentiated by weapon"
You say, "at the same time that's te beauty... look at teh differenct between a no spec mage and a bm the trade offs and play style are way different"
Veneficus says, "deus, if there is 'a best tree', that's not a criicism of the concept of a skill tree, but their implementation of it."
Deus De Ira says, "well put"
Deus De Ira says, "ie, eq, or diablo 2"
You say, "yes skill based is the way to go imo"
Tribal Priestess says, "true but my non-spec doesn't have the killing power..and in AC there aren't too many other ways to interact with the environment than to kill stuff"
Deus De Ira says, "thats why we are all moo mages i guess :)"
Veneficus says, "the static nature of characters (no unlearning skills, for instance) is also a major restriction, not just for the players, but for the developers. they can't introduce new skills."
Tribal Priestess says, "haha..yup!"
You say, "but tribal that's not the fault of the skill system but a content problem"
Veneficus says, "out of a fear it will disenfranchise the existing players."
Tehanu says, "I hope they get melee's fixed soon.  my melee friends that have witheld anti-mage comments around me all this time are beginning to give me an earful now"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah..i guess i'm still looking for that perfect game, dizz:)"
Sylence says, "tribal, can i see your claw for a sec"
You say, "actually if they would take a stance against macro's then other skill could become viable"
Tehanu says, "what do folks think about neverwinternights?"
Sylence says, "no i mean use it, i wanna pwn the drudge"
Aerlinthian says, "arg ! don't get me started on macros, lol"
Deus De Ira says, "what macros are cheap"
Deus De Ira says, "end of story..."
Tribal Priestess says, "nwn sounds like fun if i could put time into it"
Adamalon II says, "donno, haven't looked at it much Tehanu"
Deus De Ira says, "you didnt buy the game to be powerfull"
Deus De Ira says, "you bought it to play"
Sylence says, "tribal could i use your claw to kill the drudge"
Sylence says, "ill give it back when im done"
Veneficus says, "dizz, i don't believe that's the case, but i do support the no-macroing policy. trying to outhack the hackers is a losing proposition--simplify things by just banning such abuses."
Deus De Ira says, "if you play enough to be powerfull"
You say, "agreed deus"
Deus De Ira says, "thats a side effect"
Tribal Priestess says, "turbine is too lenient on hackers"
Aerlinthian says, "I agree Vene"
Deus De Ira says, "the only way to stop it is to put the fear of account loss in them"
Aerlinthian nods
Deus De Ira says, "hackers and programmers will find a way. we always have"
You say, "yup look at eq they'd take you to court for such things as decal"
Veneficus says, "however, that said, i'm not entirely of the opinion macroing is a bad thing. i mean, i don't consider mindless hunting a good thing... monster bashing is a tedium. there's no risk "
Sylence says, "You singe Oak Target Drudge for 100 points of fire damage!"
Tehanu says, "yeah, unfortunately it's a bit late for that...they should have done it right off, they didn't and now they kinda cannot go back."
Veneficus says, "in it. it's only a challenge in the way of time-management. :)"
Sylence says, "thanks TP =-P"
Tribal Priestess says, "cool:)"
Deus De Ira says, "but if you dont want to monster bash... then dont... and you wont be powerfull, and there woundt be so much uber contenct"
Tribal Priestess says, "well eq can go too far sometimes"
Deus De Ira says, "content"
Veneficus says, "i like the idea of auto-leveling systems with a restriction on the max rate of progress."

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You say, "i'm going to write an article about this one of these days.  It's all about why we play mmrpgs  but the thing is we all do it for different reasons"
Tribal Priestess says, "i'd very much like to read that"
Tehanu says, "question here about the other servers...what's the greed level like on your server, or what's the economy like?  can you still trade things like great matty horns?"
Deus De Ira says, "but the one thing that stands out is... i cant do such and such so i macro... sorry. you bought the game, do things within your level, or play quake"
Tehanu says, "HG has recently turned into a very gredy server..."
You say, "don't get me started about the mt economy"
Sylence says, "you got that right teh"
Aerlinthian says, "I think the whole macro debate bares out that the game is very inclusive but I personally don't think that is the greatest thing, it is good but I would like the player base to be "
Deus De Ira says, "cant trade much other than shards scrolls siks on dt"
Aerlinthian says, "a little different"
Tribal Priestess says, "well i agreed whoteheartedly deus..why buy a game if you don't wanna play it"
Veneficus says, "dizz, there are a few basic reasons we play, but an overwhelming reason is peer status. that's not to minimize other areas of interest, but quite honestly there isn't a whole hell "
Veneficus says, "of a lot to do in the existing games."
You say, "very true ven great point"
Veneficus says, "and of course, one way or the other, most things end up circling around to a basic desire for status, anyway. so the question is: how do they go about *acquiring* peer status."
Deus De Ira says, "but thats the thing ven, there are... there ar SO many quests in this game that could be a blast to do"
Aerlinthian nods
Deus De Ira says, "but they are ignored because the current leveling rate doesnt allow for them"
Tribal Priestess says, "respect from your peers...and the big way to get that is the 'ooh' and 'ahhs' of being a high lvl...that's it"
Tehanu says, "I walked into the subwell, Turbine should update a lot fo teh old quest, IMO."
Deus De Ira says, "they are "worthless" because people have leveled beyond them"
Tehanu says, "I did sylsfear with some friends, got the key to open that chest in there.  it's the crappiest chest I've ever opened with a special key"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Aerlinthian says, "you know what is funny but lately I have been running around all of Solcaims un explored areas seeing places that are empty of players"
Tehanu says, "and it's guarded by inferno an astriyyans."
Deus De Ira says, "but it wouldnt have been crappy if we didnt easily get all the things we have now"
Veneficus says, "deus, quests are all well and good, and i've done most of them. but most quests leave me feeling empty; they have no permanency to them, and therefore they lack any sense of "
Tehanu says, "it's no wonder people don't do half the quests out there..."
You say, "worthless only because we have been playing this game for a year + and have everything we need"
Veneficus says, "of meaning."
Tribal Priestess says, "well..that all boils down to cotent again V"
Deus De Ira says, "im just saying, if you could only learn by scrolls, and every mage had to ahve lore, possibly specced, rerolling would not be something taken lightly"
Veneficus says, "give us different ways to permenantly influence the game-world...and you'd see a lot more people involved in such activities."
Deus De Ira says, "and there wouldnt be near as much "twinking" and "powerleveling""
Aerlinthian says, "I don't thnik it is all about content I enjoy taking people on old quests so they can see a place they have never been to"
Tehanu says, "yeah, I'd just figure that a chest guarded by the high level mobs of the fire stone quest and lightning stone quest, combined, would have better stuff in it than fire protection 3 "
Tehanu says, "pants"
Sylence says, "did you just say pants?"
Tehanu :)
Veneficus says, "deus, that's not the problem. re-rolling is one of the few ways to infuse life in the game for most. and i don't consider re-rolling a bad in itself, anyway. but ideally, they"
Deus De Ira says, "but think about it... if you couldnt just learn everyspell with arcane knowledge"
Deus De Ira says, "fire pro 3 pants would own"
Veneficus says, "would remove the desire to reroll because there's far more things of interest they could be involved in."
You say, "agree tehanu, the rewards of those quest were pretty bad, althoug the writ on the lower sides aren't bad"
Veneficus says, "other than number-crunching their stats."
Tribal Priestess says, "well this game puts a premium on killing..and killing fast"
Sylence says, "Well guys, I've gotta split. Very nice talking and meeting all of you, I'll cya later :)"
Tehanu says, "yeah, they used to own way back when I started playing 2 years ago...It's just that any character who can complete that quest is way beyond the loot...it's not balanced."
Aerlinthian says, "ok be ell"
Deus De Ira says, "dunno, i think where it all falls short, is that mages have always been more powerfull at a given level than meles, its hard for them not to be, but they were MUCH harder to level"
Tribal Priestess says, "later bro"
Aerlinthian says, "erer well"
Adamalon II says, "cyas Sylence :)"
Deus De Ira says, "in ac they are quicker to level too "
You say, "but lets face it it's still the best game out there, I've about played them all and turbine has come the closest to goal of what it should be"
Tehanu says, "later sylence!"
Deus De Ira says, "true dizz"
You say, "later sylence"
You say, "gald you came out"
Aerlinthian says, "yeah AC is a great game no doubt"
You say, "so who knows maybe AC2 will be the end all be all to mmrpgs"
Aerlinthian says, "need to clean my KB ;)"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah...AC still has a big player base..even with AO and DAoC coming out"
Veneficus says, "deus, you can't overly rely upon basic obstacles such as that to thwart some type of player class, because eventually those basic elements of the game will be been refined to"
Veneficus says, "mechanical precision. of course the over-abundance of wealth in dereth is also a systemic problem."
You say, "ken said they have the biggest subscriber base ever right now"
Deus De Ira says, "im not saying that a change like that would help"
Deus De Ira says, "im just saying what i feel caused the current problems"
Veneficus says, "there's no risk or consequence in the game."
Tribal Priestess says, "i hear that too dizz"
Tehanu says, "yeah...loot comes into the system but does not really go out."
Aerlinthian says, "I bet they do, many of those being people that like the ability to cheat their way up fast"
Tehanu says, "death items ensure most of it stayd in"
Veneficus says, "teh, aye. item decay should be a part of every system--true, the people won't like it, but it serves a larger purpose..."
Tribal Priestess says, "agreed V...i didn't have to tax my brain much re-rolling a BM....manac..item..critter..then done, no sweat"
Tehanu says, "and there's no wear and tear to any items"
You say, "I don't think turbined envisioned DIs it something we came up with.  They learn from their mistakes"
Deus De Ira says, "im all for just dropping a random # of items, not really based on value"
Veneficus says, "of course if you wanted to get real ambitious, you could implement some finite resource system."
Deus De Ira says, "and on drop they just dissapear"
Aerlinthian says, "that really hosed the already under privedged melees since they are item dependent"
Aerlinthian says, "errr hoses"
You say, "yup but a finite system encourages duping"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...why not just take the argentinians outta finicial debt V:)"
Deus De Ira says, "not if you just perma ban the accounts"
Veneficus says, "dizz, hmm...duping. as you previously stated, ban such abuses. "
Tehanu says, "I think a major way to help mages= melees on the white servers would be to make mages incapable of wearing any kind of armor except the mage armor I guess"
You say, "yes but they've only just recently started doing that which I applaud"
Aerlinthian says, "Turbine has no control and MS is not a MMORPG lover, they are in it for the $ so they have little incentive to ban people unless they are cursing and such"
Veneficus says, "dizz, well, a finite resource system isn't going to be implemented in ac regardless.... :)"
Tehanu says, "sure we can still do impen, but for those first bunch of levels, it would be really tough"
Tehanu says, "hmmm...guess that would just lead to severe twinking though..."
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah..but somehow i don't think harder lvling is enough...at hi lvls mages still should have a gaping weakness imho"
You say, "finite system would be interesting but just think new types of characters would pop up... I can see the "merchant shopper template" with a finite system"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
You say, "plus top of the food chain, the elders of the world would have the majority of the wealth"
Tribal Priestess says, "yup"
Deus De Ira says, "but isnt that fair diz"
Tribal Priestess says, "but a majority of the wealth in RL is in the hands of a few too"
Deus De Ira says, "shouldnt you have to spend your time and pay your dues or do without"
Aerlinthian says, "only if they have to wrok to maintain it"
You say, "it's fair if we all start at the same point but we don't and there's always new people to the game"
Deus De Ira says, "that comes into a better monarchy system"
Deus De Ira says, "a way to controll monarachies would encourage helping people"
Tribal Priestess says, "will they still have xp pass up?"
Deus De Ira says, "i should think, but to grandparenting of xp passup"
Deus De Ira says, "no grandparenting i mean"
Deus De Ira says, "give everyone in a monarchy, completely controll over everyone below them"
Veneficus says, "dizz, didn't follow you there. merchant shopper template? :) you're suggesting a player will try to buy everything he sees thereby hoarding it all for himself and charging a "
Veneficus says, "premium?"
You say, "exactly"

18)Changes to how we learn Spell possiblities                                   
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Tehanu says, "I think they will also change how you learn spells...make them all non-researchable.  more like the level 7's or like the virindi scroll spells..."
Aerlinthian says, "hmm"
Deus De Ira says, "im all for that teh :)"
Tehanu says, "that way your patron could hand you scrolls to learn from."
Tribal Priestess says, "sounds good"
Tehanu says, "no more AK, split pea, spiltbeans, etc."
Deus De Ira says, "and it would keep trash out of monarchys"
Veneficus says, "dizz, well, first, one single player by himself (or one single account) shouldn't be able to make much of a dent in the over-all economy... other factors: other people would be "
Aerlinthian says, "it would be neat if there was a system to write scrolls..."
Veneficus says, "merchants as well... competition."
Deus De Ira says, "because the higherups could throw out _anyone_ themselves"
Tribal Priestess says, "and open up the magic system..AC's seems pretty archaic to me"
You say, "yup the make scroll system would be cool"
Aerlinthian says, "could be very cool"
Deus De Ira says, "anda  way to actually _ban_someone from your monarchy once they are thrown"
Veneficus says, "and another factor: a large percentage of the available resources would be out in nature to be minded, gathered, etc... to refine for other purposes. i admit keeping a proper balan"
Tehanu says, "yes, but there should be some severe negative effect when writing a scroll...like you burn some xp or something"
Deus De Ira says, "and when you id someone, you could see which monarchies they are baned from... im sooo dreaming...."
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Aerlinthian says, "hmm Teh"
Tehanu says, "also, casting portal spells should cost money or xp"
Veneficus says, "balance would be a difficult job, likely, and another thing: items don't last forever... and the world, unlike dereth, isn't a land of abundance."
You say, "I was thinking with the scroll writing that only your patron could do it and only after so long"
Tribal Priestess says, "teleportation really alters land travel a lot though..would a game be better without it?"
Aerlinthian says, "hmm"
You say, "no portal rock :)"
Tehanu says, "if they had that, money runs would not have happened way back, and they could actually re-vamp the economy per town"
Veneficus says, "dizz, i haven't given much thought to the finite resource system, and i suspect 'cheats' to introduce more or less into the system would be required at times. it wouldn't be"
Aerlinthian says, "I have not used a portal bot in over six months now "
Veneficus says, "entirely self-sustaining."
Deus De Ira says, "maybe if you could connect yourself to where you hunt, and you could only connect once per month or something.... nah, to many balance issues"
Adamalon II says, "I think it would be kind of neat to be able to summon to anywhere on the planet... but require like spec'd Item and 350+ skill to do it"
Veneficus says, "but it had the potential to add a very interesting element to the game."
Tribal Priestess says, "still..once you gain access to the portal skill..no risk afterwards"
Tribal Priestess says, "there should a be a chance that you get dropped on sing caul without buffs:)"
Adamalon II says, "oh yeah, definately Tribal"
You say, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "i like the no portals idea, it would make it so if you lived somewhere you really lived there"
Tehanu says, "yeah, I just think if you had to pay each time you cast LS recall, you might not take the easy way out of a fight, or doing a money run would be a tougher job, etc."
Tribal Priestess says, "plus..you have knowledge of the hunting in the area...so people will come to you"
You say, "yes actually that's a good idea tribal just think instead of fizzling you cast the wrong portal or even spell"
Veneficus says, "turbine should remove the possibility for negative AL (imperil), allow archers to wield bucklers, reduce the effectiveness of shields...and make drains only drain an amount equal "
Veneficus says, "what they're missing in that stat."
Aerlinthian says, "interesting idea but I think it limits too much but again it isdifficult to strike a balance"

19) Drain Imbalanced? if so how to fix                                          
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Deus De Ira says, "i think they should just shrink the drain range to whats attacking you... ie"
Tribal Priestess says, "drains are very imbalancing..but i can't live without them now:)"
Deus De Ira says, "from me to her"
Deus De Ira points.
Veneficus says, "deus, i'd rather see drain work as a defensive tool, similiar to melee defense, rather than as an offensive tool."
Deus De Ira says, "i can still drain if fighting"
Deus De Ira says, "but not to macro etc..."
Deus De Ira says, "and not to drainwhore on dt"
Tribal Priestess puts her hands out, "Whoa there!"
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Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Deus De Ira dances, "Look at me! I'm dancin crazy!"
Veneficus says, "and, why not make every spell only half as effective as it currently is? reduce the potency of magic, especially life/critter/item..."
Deus De Ira says, "you know you miss me :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "wax on..wax off!"
Adamalon II says, "that would be funny.. cast a spell to summon to say Arwic, end up 200 feet in the air in teh Obs Plains :)"
You say, "drains are great I think the real problem is the frequency you should only be able to drain 1 every 30 secs or so and that range can go up with the level cast so a level 6 drain"
Deus De Ira says, "lol"
You say, "every 5 secs"
Tehanu says, "how would it differentiate between defense and offense?  just drain to your full health?"
Veneficus says, "the base stats of a weapon should *not* be dwarfed by item magic..."
Tehanu says, "so equal transfer?"
Aerlinthian says, "hey now, were are mages, stop talking about nerfing us to death ;)"
You say, "lol"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Veneficus says, "teh, yes... you can only drain health when you're lacking health... say you're lacking 10 points... you can drain for 10."
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Adamalon II says, "that would work"
Tehanu says, "makes sense to me :)"
Veneficus says, "aer, lol... just would like to see some semblance of balance. i've also suggested the nerfing of shields :)"
Deus De Ira says, "that is too much of a balance slaughter v"
You say, "no I use higher level drain stams and mana drains for the return it's on the health one that's used offensivly"
Adamalon II says, "I only use Drain for health anyway"
Tribal Priestess says, "but there aren't too many things that i can think of that melee can do that mages can do better"
Veneficus says, "ad, only? you're missing out bud... stamina and mana drains are highly effective as well."
Veneficus says, "stamina = mana and health, mana = health and stamina..."
Tehanu says, "try mana drains on umbris."
Tehanu says, "that's very effective."
Veneficus says, "very interchangable"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe...or manglers or vapors:)"
Adamalon II says, "oh yeah I mean that too.. I just meant that I don't use it particularly to hurt the baddy"
You say, "same here ad"
Tehanu says, "same here."
Adamalon II says, "I use them to restore myself.. it just happens to drain the baddy of whatever"

20) How to make Melee's as powerful as mages                                    
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Tehanu says, "well...so how can they improve melees to get them equivalently powerful as mages?"
You say, "man I'm going to have to summit this log to turbine"
Deus De Ira says, "decent idea"
Tehanu says, "heh heh"
Tribal Priestess says, "well..define melee:)"
Veneficus says, "teh, i don't agree they should be just as powerful--mages should just be much more vunerable. it should always be a trade-off... in some way or another. generally you generalize it"
Tribal Priestess says, "<matrix quote here> :)"
Veneficus says, "to Damage you can do over time and damage you take over time."
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "thank you for saying it V:)"
Aerlinthian says, "I don't honestly think melees should be as powerful, conventionaly they arn't, but I do think some melees in this game have a terrible time at certain levels"
Deus De Ira says, "well... there is one thing that im not sure most people realise"
Deus De Ira says, "banes are broken...."
Tribal Priestess says, "what deus?"
Veneficus says, "and balance those two elements...you also consider the difficulty of the class, the sort of consequences to the class, etc..."
Deus De Ira says, "they go past 2.0"
Tehanu says, "I'd agree with you Ven, except that there's no such thing in AC as a pure melee...or at least not many.we're all mages of some sort."
Deus De Ira says, "thast the reason mages get hit for so little"
You say, "yup tehanu is right"
Veneficus says, "teh, of course there isn't. magic is just to potent."
Adamalon II says, "aye, I can buff this GSA to over 1000 AL to anythign"
Deus De Ira says, "if you bane something thats nearly unpar, it goes well past unpar"
Deus De Ira says, "if banes were fixxed tuskers would hit us for more than 3"
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Tribal Priestess says, "damn..so much for wearing a hoary jso i didn't have to buff cold and lightning:)"
Veneficus says, "they need to nerf it in appropriate ways... not by introducing hollows which don't really contribute much to the game."
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Tehanu says, "so...it's hard to balance for melees vs. mages when a small tweak could shove the Og melees way over the balance"
Deus De Ira says, "well, you dont have to"
Deus De Ira says, "but youll get hit for less if you do"
You say, "yes content does not fix balance"
Deus De Ira says, "well yea, if they make monsters easy for straight meles"
Deus De Ira says, "og meles are going to own them"
You say, "the exceptiong being the ves islands for archers"
Tribal Priestess says, "i still think that the only way to get it right is to have a weakness to every strength for a skill or whatever"
Tehanu says, "well...the drain fix you suggest would help immensely..."
Adamalon II says, "maybe having certain places where mana is actually drained?"
Deus De Ira says, "well they cant let mages just not wear armor"
Deus De Ira says, "because that would break dt"
Deus De Ira says, "i get 2 shot if im in a robe"
Tribal Priestess says, "only then will you have to make a tough decision"
Deus De Ira says, "they would have to hella nerf hollows"
Veneficus says, "a general rule: a buff shouldn't be a significant percentage of your over-all skill in whatever it is your were buffing... (apply that same principle to items, etc)"
Deus De Ira says, "yea reducing damage by 225% is a bit silly :)"
Deus De Ira says, "or whatever 7s are"
Veneficus says, "given the potency of, say blood drinker vii, the base attack on the weapon doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot... its dwarfed by this spell."
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah..cause now we only fight with buffs on"
Deus De Ira says, "200%, god only knows"
You say, "but if they do that then monster damage has to be decressed"
Aerlinthian says, "Deus, question for you, when you are questing how difficult is it for people to avoid targetting one another ?"
Veneficus says, "and the speed of a weapon? totoally meaningless."
Deus De Ira says, "not that bad aer"
Deus De Ira says, "fellows and monarchy tags fix that"
Veneficus says, "dizz, yup... if they do some of these suggestions, some of the content would have to be moderated down a bit."
Deus De Ira says, "and the fact that you dont quick on dt unless you have a group of friends"
Deus De Ira says, "and you know your friends, friends are VERY important on dt"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe"
Aerlinthian says, "but I mean if your in the Keep and things are hot and heavy, what do you do to target fast but not a fellow memeber ?"
Deus De Ira says, "quest*"
Deus De Ira says, "to target someone to kill?"
Aerlinthian says, "no, you play DT right ?"
Deus De Ira says, "smack the . key untill you see his name"
Deus De Ira says, "yes"
Deus De Ira says, "you mean a monster?"
Aerlinthian says, "ok so you are questing in a very busy dungeon with friends, how do you target MOB's only ?"
Deus De Ira says, "its kind of funny.... :)"
You say, "the thing is on a white server we just hit the ' to find the next target on dt that doesn't work"
Aerlinthian says, "right"
Deus De Ira says, "leg humping helps a lot"
Aerlinthian says, "lol"
Tribal Priestess says, "did any of you guys play chrono cross?"
Aerlinthian says, "woof ?"
Adamalon II says, "?"
Deus De Ira says, "run up like this"
Deus De Ira says, "hit backspace"
Deus De Ira says, "kill the target"
Veneficus says, "dizz, that's another problem... and i think ken troop acknowledged it a bit ago. in ac, it's all or nothing. either a foe is extremely easy, or it is extremely hard."
Tehanu says, "wel"
Veneficus says, "there's no real middle ground."
Aerlinthian says, "hmm"
Deus De Ira says, "works really well"
Tehanu says, "had not thoguht of that target problem against mobs on DT..."
Tribal Priestess says, "well cause turbine has to make monster that can be formidable against our buffs"
Deus De Ira says, "just run right into it and it backspace :)"
Aerlinthian says, "ohh hmm, "
Aerlinthian says, "ahh"
Tribal Priestess says, "i think part of the magic system in chrono cross has a lot fo potential"
You say, "never played it"
Aerlinthian says, "Thanks Deus"
Deus De Ira says, "you spend a lot of time in noncombat mode on dt, your potion sucking animation is quicker, you can godmode potions, your healing is better"
Adamalon II says, "neither did I"
Deus De Ira says, "np... watching dters fight is down right funny"
Veneficus says, "look to systems like d20... very interesting possibilities. i mentioned this earlier, but i also like the idea of ley lines."
You say, "k deus I'll be looking you up next time I'm on DT you have some things to teach me"
Deus De Ira says, "were hopping all over the screen, godmoding wands, potions, using trees to avoid wars"
Tribal Priestess says, "well its broken down into the elements..red fire blue water etc....but the neat thing was..."
Veneficus says, "basically, 'mana lines'... where you can only regain mana when within the vicinities of these lines...the more potent the ley line, the higher the magics you can theoretically cast"
Tribal Priestess says, "the mana in the area could be 'tainted' cause enough water magic...the area becomes more stronger with blue and less stronger with fire attacks"
Adamalon II says, "that's the way the lore is anyway right Ven?  that' why mages here can cast higher magics than on Ispar"
Deus De Ira says, "heh, i dont know if you play with it diz, but on dt, spacebar wubs j00 :)"

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Tehanu says, "ok, folks...I gotta go.  should be back in an hour or so, but don't expect folks will still be here."
Tribal Priestess says, "cya tehanu:)"
Tehanu says, "thanks for coming everyone, and nice to meet folks!"
You say, "yup I need to go too"
Veneficus says, "tribal, yup... you know the concept. additionally, 'junctures' and such where lines meet would add additional elements... "
Adamalon II says, "hehe k, cyas Teh :)"
You say, "this has been greet guys"
Aerlinthian says, "ok Tehanu, was nice to meet you "
Deus De Ira says, "that it was"
Tehanu says, "take care, all!"
Tribal Priestess says, "yeah that sounds great V!"
You say, "I'll be posting the log on the site"
Veneficus says, "most cities and such would be ideally situated on these lines to take advantage of it... most roadways, etc"
Adamalon II says, "aye it was very fun"
Deus De Ira says, "i hope we can get together sometime in the future"
Aerlinthian says, "great idea Drizz, looking forward to the next one"
Tehanu says, "adn thanks to Dizz for that amazing web site ;)"
Deus De Ira says, "things like this are a great break :)"
Veneficus says, "dizz, thanks for arranging this"
Veneficus says, "was a pleasure"
Tribal Priestess says, "the would have sites one the ley lines for learning magic then..since that is wear it is most concentrated:)"
You say, "not a proble we have these ever few monts"
Deus De Ira says, "yes diz, thankyou, made my day :)"
Adamalon II says, "right Tribal"
Tehanu says, "next time, someone should get a GCD tie, and we can all head in there with level 1's."
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Veneficus says, "gcd?"
Adamalon II says, "lol"
Deus De Ira says, "been reading your site since before i rolled a bm"
Adamalon II says, "Grendaline Consulate"
Aerlinthian says, "grendine or such"
Aerlinthian says, "hehe"
Veneficus says, "ah"
You say, "deus de ira on dt right?"
Tehanu says, "ok, have a nice rest of the day/evening, folks.  take care!"
Deus De Ira says, "iro"
Adamalon II says, "cyas"
Deus De Ira says, "hes a guy"
Aerlinthian says, "ok folks it was good to chat, we all and happy hunting !"
You say, "ok, you'll be hereing from my opal mage"
Deus De Ira says, "cool :)"
Tribal Priestess says, "cool!"
Deus De Ira says, "hopefully ill be on to help you out"
Tribal Priestess says, "tank you all for coming to hg:)"
Aerlinthian says, "=)"
Tribal Priestess says, "thank you rather"
You say, "sure it was fun"
Deus De Ira says, "thank you for helping us get here tribal"
Veneficus says, "dizz, look me up sometime in mt...we can do aerlinthe or something together sometime"
Aerlinthian says, "Thanks for being a great ost =)"
Adamalon II says, "yeah, come back any time :)"
Aerlinthian says, "host even, hehe"
Tribal Priestess says, "hehe..we try to be:)"
Aerlinthian says, "bye !"
Tribal Priestess says, "cya"
Deus De Ira says, "well at least if we have another meeting, we can do it here again"
You say, "will do ven, I might be getting with you on some articles I want to write you have some great ideas"
Deus De Ira says, "and most of us will still have chars logged off here"
Tribal Priestess says, "we can always keep switching servers"
Veneficus says, "dizz, hehe, sure... maajid@charter.net"
Tribal Priestess says, "so people can show-off their bms:)"
Adamalon II says, "hehe"
You say, "later all"
Tribal Priestess flexes again
Veneficus waves.
Tribal Priestess says, "cya"
Deus De Ira says, "well, if we could get a bunch of newbies to my house in dt"
Adamalon II says, "cyas Dizz :)"
Deus De Ira )